monknomo
monknomo New Reader
11/17/14 12:35 p.m.

I've been talking with a company called Dealertrack, and they've made me a job offer. The job is similar to what I do now (java on the web) and offers a 25% pay bump. Cubicles instead of a private office, and private industry instead of government. I'd have to relocate, but that's not too big of an issue.

My trouble is that I'm pretty happy with my current job - I have a private office, good coworkers and I know where the bodies are buried. I'm a little torn on my decision, so to help me work it out I thought I'd ask the best and brightest if they have any opinions on Dealertrack or stories on similar situations?

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
11/17/14 12:49 p.m.

Is 25% worth your happiness? I just lost 50% and am happier than ive been in ages. Its all perspective.

Sine_Qua_Non
Sine_Qua_Non Dork
11/17/14 12:50 p.m.
Datsun1500 wrote: Relocate to where? A 25% pay bump does not work well if the cost of living is 2X

+1. Use the cost of living calculator to ensure it's a good move.

http://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/cost-of-living/

z31maniac
z31maniac UltimaDork
11/17/14 12:52 p.m.

Does the cost of living change make sense compared to the raise? Will this further your future career opportunities? Does the idea of a fresh start in a new area excite you?

If the answer to these is yes, I'd say go for it!

monknomo
monknomo New Reader
11/17/14 1:00 p.m.

The relocation would be from Alaska to Portland. I'd say Portland is cheaper than my current location, at least as far as rent, gas and groceries go...

I'd say it's neutral, in terms of career opportunities.

As for fresh starts, I have had a long term goal of moving down to the west coast, but I hadn't planned on making the move so soon.

sachilles
sachilles SuperDork
11/17/14 1:23 p.m.

Alaska strikes as one of those, love it or hate it type places. Portland is a cool place, but I'm guessing is far more urban than what you have now. So the move seems like a big one to me. Will you be happy in a cube?

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH MegaDork
11/17/14 1:27 p.m.

You must really like Alaska to have asked this question

PHeller
PHeller PowerDork
11/17/14 1:38 p.m.

If your plan is to move down coast, then get on moving.

My plan is go out west for a few years, then come back to the south east coast if/when I need cheap babysitter...er grandparents. If someone offered me a spot out west today, I wouldn't hesitate.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve MegaDork
11/17/14 2:03 p.m.

Their booth at NADA 2014 was quite large and impressive, so I know they have money somewhere.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy UberDork
11/17/14 2:06 p.m.

If you want out of alaska, its a no brainer.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill PowerDork
11/17/14 2:19 p.m.

If you were happy at your job, why were you looking. Or did they just come knocking?

monknomo
monknomo New Reader
11/17/14 5:26 p.m.

They came knocking. I'm always happy to talk to recruiters, see what they have to offer.

I do like Alaska, but I'm starting to think the winters are long and dark, so it might be time to move on.

PDX is more urban than my current set up, which isn't all bad. It wouldn't be the most urban place I've ever lived. I am really fond of my private office. It has a water view and a door, which is not to be sneezed at.

I worry that private industry is a little more volatile than government, but I say that as someone that got an unplanned vacation last October...

Thanks for the feedback, I shall have to mull this over some more

bgkast
bgkast SuperDork
11/17/14 5:31 p.m.

C'mon down, the rain down here is fine!

petegossett
petegossett PowerDork
11/17/14 5:47 p.m.

I'd strongly suggest you try to find some employees of the new company, particularly any who would have the same/comparable duties as you, and try to get some intel on how the company really is from the inside. Use Facebook, Linked In, etc. whatever can get you some contacts there.

If it seems like a good solid company, with a culture that works with your needs, then go for it.

JThw8
JThw8 PowerDork
11/17/14 8:04 p.m.

http://www.indeed.com/cmp/Dealertrack-Technologies,-Inc./reviews

szeis4cookie
szeis4cookie HalfDork
11/18/14 9:28 a.m.

Glassdoor can be useful for their reviews of a company. Typical "grain of salt" advice about internet reviews apply though, and sample size can be limited for companies not in the Fortune 500.

Jeff
Jeff SuperDork
11/18/14 10:01 a.m.

Can you squeeze a little more money out of your current position? As I read between the lines, it sounds like you are happy where you are. There is nothing wrong with that.

monknomo
monknomo New Reader
11/18/14 5:49 p.m.

I've talked to a lot of the employees through the interview process and they seem pretty happy, but tracking folks down via linked in might be a good idea. I have the vague impression that working directly for their HQ might not be up my alley, but this is a satellite office on the other side of the country that sounds good from what I've gleaned.

It's unlikely that I could squeeze any more money out of my current position. It's a government job, we're under a continuing resolution, there's probably going to be another shutdown shutdown (my pessimism on this knows no bounds) and long story short, there is only money to do ~3% raises. That's about what I scored this last round. 7 or 8 years ago, I'm told that bonuses and 5-10% raises were pretty common around here, so the pendulum may swing. At my current rate of increase, I'll be at max compensation for my position (zp-iii for those where that means something) in 6 years.

I probably should make a rubric to figure myself out. For my own benefit:

  1. Happiness - I like my coworkers and the work and the fringe benefits, but the other place sounds pretty good. I'm ok with my current locale, but I could do with a change of scenery

  2. Compensation - I'm doing ok, I don't really need more money, but I'm also not really making enough to buy an actual home. This is because I live in a place where the choices are trailer or beach palace, so somewhere else would change that equation

  3. Risk - How hard would it be for my significant other to find work down that way, what are the odds that the company and I are on good terms for a couple years, how accurate is my assessment of their characters, vs just staying put and running my rut deeper

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