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Will
Will Dork
10/14/11 5:57 a.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote:
Gearheadotaku wrote: my 89 Chevy has a shifter marked 1-2-3, with an 'L' for the compound low. Does this count as a 3 speed for this discussion?
Not directly, but I bet its the last 4 speed standard shift trans available. I'm pretty sure they added overdrive 5th on those in 90.

Wasn't a 4-speed available on the second gen CRX DX, and Civics of the same era?

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy Dork
10/14/11 7:57 a.m.
Will wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote:
Gearheadotaku wrote: my 89 Chevy has a shifter marked 1-2-3, with an 'L' for the compound low. Does this count as a 3 speed for this discussion?
Not directly, but I bet its the last 4 speed standard shift trans available. I'm pretty sure they added overdrive 5th on those in 90.
Wasn't a 4-speed available on the second gen CRX DX, and Civics of the same era?

Certainly possible- I remember having a hell of a time finding the right clutch for a 4 speed Civic at one time, since most of them had 5 speeds. I don't remember the vintage of the car, though.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden Dork
10/14/11 8:41 a.m.

I would wager that a 3 on the tree could be left with the keys in it, parked in a bad area for quite a while without being driven away.

griffin729
griffin729 HalfDork
10/14/11 8:50 a.m.

My '79 CJ-7 had 3 on the floor, though 1st was geared so low it was pretty much a 2 speed.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill SuperDork
10/14/11 2:42 p.m.

I learned to drive in an early 50s Plymouth with 3 on the tree.

I also had a 64 Olds F-85 with 3 on the floor. Had the mightly 225 Dauntless V-6.

pinchvalve
pinchvalve SuperDork
10/14/11 2:47 p.m.

My 1987 Nissan Stanza had a three-speed. (1st and 5th stopped working, along with reverse.)

Woody
Woody SuperDork
10/14/11 2:58 p.m.
Will wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote:
Gearheadotaku wrote: my 89 Chevy has a shifter marked 1-2-3, with an 'L' for the compound low. Does this count as a 3 speed for this discussion?
Not directly, but I bet its the last 4 speed standard shift trans available. I'm pretty sure they added overdrive 5th on those in 90.
Wasn't a 4-speed available on the second gen CRX DX, and Civics of the same era?

Not the CRX, but the base Civic was a four speed, at least up to 1991.

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter SuperDork
10/14/11 3:10 p.m.

I know my friend's dad had an 80's bodystyle E150 that had a column shift manual... did those ever come as a 4-speed? If not, I suspect it's the last of the non-automatic 3s.

fasted58
fasted58 SuperDork
10/14/11 4:38 p.m.

Wiki says last North American column shift was '87 Chevy PU

Nitroracer
Nitroracer SuperDork
10/14/11 10:54 p.m.
novaderrik wrote: i've seen a couple of mid 70's Chevelles with a 6 cylinder and a 3 on the tree.. i'd love to see anyone under the age of 30 try to drive one of them..

I'm only 24 but I'd love to give it a shot. Some times I wish my fairlane was a column shift manual just to give it a try. Probably wouldn't want it for daily use though.

novaderrik
novaderrik Dork
10/15/11 12:12 a.m.
Nitroracer wrote:
novaderrik wrote: i've seen a couple of mid 70's Chevelles with a 6 cylinder and a 3 on the tree.. i'd love to see anyone under the age of 30 try to drive one of them..
I'm only 24 but I'd love to give it a shot. Some times I wish my fairlane was a column shift manual just to give it a try. Probably wouldn't want it for daily use though.

actually, it's not that bad once you get used to the shift pattern and as long as the linkages are all properly adjusted.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro Dork
10/15/11 1:03 a.m.
Nitroracer wrote: I'm only 24 but I'd love to give it a shot. Some times I wish my fairlane was a column shift manual just to give it a try. Probably wouldn't want it for daily use though.

Why not?

I drove a column shift three-speed for years as a daily and I'm only 34.

It's no worse than any other shifter.

Makes automatics a bit rough though. I stuffed our old work van into park trying to grab another gear one day.

Shawn

mtn
mtn SuperDork
10/15/11 2:19 a.m.

I'm only 21; I've only seen one in person. I'm pretty sure that I could drive one if I were allowed 30 seconds playing around with the shift pattern before hand. It isn't any different than driving a floor mounted manual, how hard could it be?

(Don't say that!)

novaderrik
novaderrik Dork
10/15/11 4:37 a.m.
mtn wrote: I'm only 21; I've only seen one in person. I'm pretty sure that I could drive one if I were allowed 30 seconds playing around with the shift pattern before hand. It isn't any different than driving a floor mounted manual, how hard could it be? (Don't say that!)

i drove an 87 Celebrity with a column mounted automatic for 7 months.. i've been driving an '04 Cavalier with a floor mounted automatic for about a month.. about every 4th time i get in the car, i hit the windshield washer squirter when i want to put it in gear..

driving a 3 on the tree is kind of like that at first, but it's actually a very intuitive way to drive once you get used to it.. there is a part of me that wants to figure out a linkage in something to shift a modern internal rail 5 speed overdrive trans with a column shifter..

iceracer
iceracer SuperDork
10/15/11 9:20 a.m.

The shift pattern is the same whether on the wheel or on the floor. Just flipped 90 degrees.

Twin_Cam
Twin_Cam SuperDork
10/15/11 11:03 a.m.
HappyAndy wrote: My '83 F-150 had an I-6 and 3 plus O/D. Ford called it a 4 speed, but for all intents it was a 3 speed, O/D was useless below 50mph.

Co-worker just bought that exact truck but it's an '85.

pitbull113
pitbull113 Reader
10/15/11 2:15 p.m.

i had a '81 chevy g10 van with a 250 6cyl. and 3 on the tree. loved that van

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