Learn me: how to sleep

OHSCrifle said:

Have you ever tried CBD?

 

...it didn't work for me (nor THC) but desperate times seem to merit desperate measures. 

No, but still pass. 

tester (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to tuna55 :

 He had major surgery to his septum and nasal cavities because he couldn't breathe. Couldn't sleep. Felt like he was choking to death. Woke up tired all the time, etc.  He had to retrain himself to breathe through his nose using an elastic band to keep his mouth shut during sleep. Worst case scenario is needing surgery to the tongue, sinuses,  etc.  

 

My suggestion: Try sleeping on a different bed or the couch. You mentioned a custom tilt on that bed frame. That can cause problems for some people. 

 

I've had the bed for some two years. It's wonderful. It hasn't been a problem until April. 

I keep checking back hoping for a positive trend. 

I've gathered that you're generally quite busy and have a lot going on. If you think back, did anything particularly major, jarring, etc. happen late last year or early this year?

Considering you're trying so much and it's a new phenomenon,  I'm kind of thinking this is related to some sort of stressor. I know others have mentioned it but I figured it's worth mentioning again. Assuming there wasn't some huge, obvious event, I'd look for something that maybe isn't so obvious but is nagging at you subconsciously. 

The only other suggestion I have, and I don't mean this in any way other than being totally straightforward. Maybe just work on telling yourself you're going to sleep better. 

Anecdote from my childhood. I was walking the dog with my dad in the middle of the winter. I was totally bundled up and still frozen. He had a baseball hat on and no gloves. I asked him how he could handle being outside like that. His answer was simple in that when he was in the CG, he realized all he had to do to stop feeling cold and wet was just not feel cold and wet. 

Yes, that's simplistic. No, it's not possible in every situation. That mindset totally helps me in difficult situations. 

In reply to AxeHealey :

I mean marriage is hard, kids are hard, I had a friend die, normal stressors through Deacon and Trail Life duties. Nothing that's unusually acute for me.

I was thinking about this thread when I woke up around 5 this morning.  I was lying in bed wondering why I wasn't going back to sleep.  Then I realized I was sweating.  Haven't turned the A/C on yet this year, but the nights are starting to get a bit warmer and more humid.  We seem to sleep best when it's about 68 in the bedroom.  We both prefer heavy blankets, and a t-shirt and pajama pants- as others have said, equalize the body temp.  Also, your sleep clothes will tend to carry sleep pheremones (or whatever they're called), so I keep specific clothes just for sleeping, and do not wear them during the day.  

I see you mentioned you tried lowering the temp, but no specifics about to what or how long tried.  77 seems too warm.  It may take going lower than 70.  It also may take a bit to get the body into a new rhythm.  I understand A/C is expensive.  A window A/C might work, but may also cause other problems due to the noise (or might help?).  We have minisplits upstairs so we can crank it in just the bedroom, and make it whatever temp the kids want it.  My son prefers a bit warmer; my daughter likes it freezing.  

Will repeat what I and others have said about decluttering the bedroom.  At the very least, take the TV and any other screens out.  

I've never tried CBD, but others have, and it's not pot or THC.  I mean, you already drink caffeine and alcohol, and the lethal Dihydrogen monoxide, what's one more chemical?  

In reply to volvoclearinghouse :

Not moving the TV, Tunawife uses it before bed (it's off when I lay down) and she'd riot. That would make sleep worse.

Tried the thermostat everywhere down to 72. I've never ever ever had the thermostat that low in any house during the summer, so this isn't it, folks.

Not doing CBD. Hard pass, end of discussion.

Rub one out before bed?

Im being mostly serious. 

Folgers said:

Rub one out before bed?

Im being mostly serious. 

Very much TMI, but I've tried it, and it didn't make a difference.

Cranked the AC last night down to 68, went to bed at 10:30, slept like a bear till the alarm went off at 5:39.  

dunno if this'll help but you can ignore it.   I remember my dad was having trouble with sleep.  I think there were suspicions of heart arrythmia which were never medically confirmed.  I remember going with him to buy a new mattress, which he anticipated solving the problem.  It didn't.  

Dad was an engineer and a motivated one, too.  He'd lie awake trying to solve work design problems, which makes me wonder if your issues aren't "stress" related.  I know it's been discussed here before, but my $.02 at this point is that you've got something deep nagging at you--maybe intellectual, maybe emotional, I dunno.  I have a feeling "relaxation exercises" might help you get to sleep but given the lack of success of all the environmental stuff you've listed, Tuna, I think your restlessness is something else. 

Just out of curiosity, have you ever taken a Big Five personality test?  I took one a year or two ago and was surprised at my Neuroses score.  Didn't think I was neurotic but according to the test I was way on one end of the bell curve.  

Just a thought.

Campout Friday evening with Tunakid 3. I was in a hammock, finally with an excellent bag, in 40F. I used a bug net and rain fly, powering the CPAP with a portable battery. I slept better than I had in months.

Still the same story at home.

Weighted blanket was a huge help last night. I doubled it and kept it on my chest/hips.

Its probably "unfinished business" that is keeping you awake. 

Pete

NOHOME said:

Its probably "unfinished business" that is keeping you awake. 

 

Pete

You're more right than you imagine. It's a frantic schedule and that always leaves things undone.

Yeah. Just got layered at work with a reorg.  Haven't been able to sleep since this

happened.  Once I find a new role I'll probably be able to sleep again. 
 

tldr. I feel you. Try reducing your workload.  You need to destress

Weighted blanket seems to be the answer. That's two days in a row without tossing and turning.