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vwcorvette (Forum Supporter)
vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) UberDork
1/19/24 11:50 a.m.

So I want to replace my Mazda 2 soon. It's been a great car, but rust is starting to rear it's ugly head. The next car I get should be auto so my wife can drive it also. I have enough manuals in the yard to drive. I put 300-500 miles a week on my car depending on the time of year (currently in the 500 range) so want to keep or improve upon the 35mpg the 2 gets. The 2 and C are about the same size. I like small cars. What are the drawbacks?

Thanks.

malibuguy
malibuguy HalfDork
1/19/24 12:07 p.m.

Its essentially a Yaris hybrid 5door hatch.  So i am biased

pheller
pheller UltimaDork
1/19/24 1:08 p.m.

The Prius C is different enough from the regular 3rd Gen Prius and Prius V that many in the Prius community see them as different cars. They are kinda the best combination of the 2nd Gen's Motor and the 3rd Gen's Transmission and Inverter tech. They aren't impacted by the same issues as the normal 3rd Gen Prius (notable the oil burning and frequent head gasket issues). They also don't suffer from the same EGR clogging issues as the normal Prius. 

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
1/19/24 1:18 p.m.

1.5L in Gen2 and PriusC =Yeah!

1.8L in Gen3 = Boo.

My Gen2 buyers guide

Outlier: See if you can find a Lexus HS250.  A Camry hybrid engine in a smaller chassis.

travellering
travellering Dork
1/19/24 5:24 p.m.
John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
1/19/24 5:45 p.m.

In reply to travellering :

Probably nothing wrong with it.  It was a 3 model year run ( more like 2.5 yrs) that no one knows about.  The Lexus ES (Camry) hybrid is/was much more popular.  Also, who's shopping for a sedan in this SUV crazed world?  

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
1/19/24 5:49 p.m.

'09 (Gen2) with 137k @ $7k

or

'12 (PriusC) with 107k @ $9k

I'd lean toward the Gen2 but try both out and see which suits you best.  

vwcorvette (Forum Supporter)
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1/19/24 6:51 p.m.

I much prefer the look of the C to the regular Prius. That's mostly my thoughts. And it is smaller. I have larger vehicles if needed. Wife has an i3.

SKJSS (formerly Klayfish)
SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) UltimaDork
1/19/24 10:15 p.m.

I've had a Prius C for 2.5 years now.  Bought it with 260,000 on the odometer.  Drove it until 325,000 when the head gasket called it quits.  Found a 40,000 mile motor and transmission for $500 all in.  Had a shop do the swap and the car is now with my 16 year old daughter and at 34x,xxx miles.  I keep thinking of ways to get it back from her.  It's such a good A to B car.  45mpg is easy, 50+ is not uncommon if you play the game.  The ride is comfy, handling is inoffensive.  It just does it's job so well.  Downsides?  Uh... well... any downside is nitpicking to me.  It's glacier slow.  Small hatch area.  That's all I got... I absolutely love it and would get another in a heartbeat. 

vwcorvette (Forum Supporter)
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1/20/24 4:23 p.m.

Looking at Carvana for ideas. Some say C one, two, three, or four. Are those equipment levels?

vwcorvette (Forum Supporter)
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1/20/24 4:37 p.m.

C in Connecticut

What does the collective think of this. Carfax reports minor nose damage. Nothing obvious in the pics. The car appears to have been regularly serviced too.

calteg
calteg SuperDork
1/20/24 4:43 p.m.

In reply to vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) :

Yes. Two adds cruise control, most of the Prius C's you find will be 2's. I think 3 gets you alloy wheels and 4 has a backup cam, seat heaters. I dislike the color on that particular one, but it's hard to argue with great MPGs under $10k

I bought mine with 130k, sold it at 160k when the hybrid battery died. I'd expect at least 200k from the hybrid pack, I know my example was ridden hard and put away wet.

When SKJSS says slow, he means "hazardously" slow. Foot to the floor, I'd regularly have people tailgating me in the left lane. It's also surprisingly lightweight, which means a lot of NVH skimping...it's not a nice road trip car by any means. That being said, I'd regularly knock down 52mpg, still got high 30's with the battery pack out, and the small trunk was rarely ever an issue

vwcorvette (Forum Supporter)
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1/20/24 4:47 p.m.

Does the rear seat back fold flat level with the trunk floor?

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
1/20/24 4:58 p.m.

In reply to vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) :

Looks nice.  The Carfax also reveals he dealership has had the car since Sept!  Notice the green leaves in the pictures.  I would try to use that info to your price advantage.  

One thing I do love about Prius is that owners tend to see the car as "complex" and it is very common that they go back to the dealership for every service including buying tires.  

calteg
calteg SuperDork
1/20/24 5:00 p.m.

In reply to vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) :

Sorta. It folds down, but not completely flat. Mine was always up at about a 10 degree angle. The few times I needed it, I was putting something heavy on top which helped moosh it down

SKJSS (formerly Klayfish)
SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) UltimaDork
1/20/24 5:08 p.m.

Mine is a Prius C one.  Still has enough stuff in it.  I think it has cruise, but don't remember for sure.  Will it fly down the highway at 90mph?  No, but I took it on numerous 500+ mile trips and it had no problem cruising at 80.  Same with NVH.  It's not library quiet but it's not rock concert loud.

The floor does not fold absolutely flat.  Most of the way, but still a slight slope.

I really miss mine and drive it whenever I can 

vwcorvette (Forum Supporter)
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1/21/24 3:03 p.m.
SKJSS (formerly Klayfish) said:

Mine is a Prius C one.  Still has enough stuff in it.  I think it has cruise, but don't remember for sure.  Will it fly down the highway at 90mph?  No, but I took it on numerous 500+ mile trips and it had no problem cruising at 80.  Same with NVH.  It's not library quiet but it's not rock concert loud.

The floor does not fold absolutely flat.  Most of the way, but still a slight slope.

I really miss mine and drive it whenever I can 

So a lot like my 2.

vwcorvette (Forum Supporter)
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1/28/24 4:13 p.m.

Found this one in Sandusky, Ohio. If I flew in from Vermont, would Cleveland or Toledo be better?

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
1/28/24 4:30 p.m.

Cleveland would be easier but still 45 minute drive from CLE to Sandusky.

1 hr 30 min from Detroit

2hrs from Columbus, OH

This car is generally across the street from where I am currently standing and about 3 miles from my house. 

...Jwelsh02... yahoo...

 

I will give this caution...if you're willing to travel far for a car, traveling to the rust belt isn't your best move!

 

I'll be here until about 5:00 (kid event) and I'll stop at the lot on the way home.  They will be closed.  

vwcorvette (Forum Supporter)
vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) UberDork
1/28/24 4:37 p.m.
 

I will give this caution...if you're willing to travel far for a car, traveling to the rust belt isn't your best move!

That should be someone's signature on this forum.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
1/28/24 4:43 p.m.

It's Carfax does read as well maintained.  

FYI: Kasper Toyota and Firelands Toyota are the same building.  Dealership ownership change. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
1/28/24 5:48 p.m.
pheller said:

The Prius C is different enough from the regular 3rd Gen Prius and Prius V that many in the Prius community see them as different cars. They are kinda the best combination of the 2nd Gen's Motor and the 3rd Gen's Transmission and Inverter tech. They aren't impacted by the same issues as the normal 3rd Gen Prius (notable the oil burning and frequent head gasket issues). They also don't suffer from the same EGR clogging issues as the normal Prius. 

When these were new, I liked them and was inquiring about them.  Someone whose daily driver was an LS2 GTO complained that they were horrible because if you were going 80 and wanted to pass someone, there was nothing there.

My car at the time topped out around 75...

 

Personally I grew a bit boojie over the years and the Lexus variant is more to my taste now.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
1/28/24 5:52 p.m.
vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) said:
 

I will give this caution...if you're willing to travel far for a car, traveling to the rust belt isn't your best move!

That should be someone's signature on this forum.

Yes, buying used cars here is the epitome of buy high/sell low.  It's a used car market with a ton of turnover so prices tend to be a lot higher than the rest of the country, unless you happen to find the exact option combo you want and have no other choice.

 

Even in the E36 M3tiest neighborhoods, everyone drives newish cars because cars just don't last here.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
1/28/24 6:34 p.m.

It's a very clean car.  Properly dealership detailed. 

It was 36 degrees with rain so I was quick but...

Surprisingly, it was unlocked.  Interior clean and no smoke smell.  Toyota puts vin tags on body panels.  I verified that all metal body parts are factory original.  Tag for bumper covers are backside so hard to verify but I have no reason to believe they are not original.  Tires have good to medium tread and all matching Bridgestones.  Build dates of 4520.  (Nov '20-ish)

I was happy to see it has genuine WeatherTech mats up front.  

Zoom in and you'll see white between passenger headlamp and grille.  I couldn't tell if that was white atop red or if it was red missing.  Either way, it's a plastic part so it won't get worse. 

03Panther
03Panther PowerDork
1/28/24 8:40 p.m.

In reply to vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) :

If the rust on the Mazda 2 happens to put it into the VERY cheap beater catagory, I'm not real picky, just broke! Keep me in mind, if so. 
Thanks. 

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