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KyAllroad
KyAllroad SuperDork
9/4/15 12:54 p.m.

What do you all get? I hear about places where 2 weeks a year is all anyone gets, and I hear about teachers who only work 180 days a year and all sorts of jobs in between. Just curious.

I've been at my job for a long time now and an in the top leave tier. 8 hrs per pay period (2 weeks) annual leave, 4 hrs sick leave per PP, and all the holidays off with pay. We can accumulate all the SL we want but can only carry over 240 hrs of AL from one year to the next.

Not gonna lie, it's nice.

mtn
mtn MegaDork
9/4/15 12:59 p.m.

Last job in corporate at gigantic insurance company we had, starting, 13 days of vacation and 7 holidays. After 5 years you got 18 days of vacation, and at 15 years it was 23 days, eventually maxing out at 33. Sick time was more than adequate but couldn't tell you what it was--I don't really view that as "mine" so much as I don't have to use my vacation when I'm sick.

Current job, at my level (anything above staff) it is 22 days of vacation, 10 holidays, and more than adequate sick time. And every day before a holiday (so today) they usually tell us to leave at about 2PM. More than happy with that :)

EDIT: The vacation increase was a serious consideration for me leaving the last job.

Further edit: You can't carry vacation days here at this job, have to use them. And they encourage you to use them. Some folks are required to take a week off straight at least once a year.

The last job had no restrictions about what you could carry over (3 of the vacation days were actually PT and those had to be used in the CY or you lost them), but you couldn't hold a bank of more than 90 days.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
9/4/15 1:00 p.m.

I get 5 weeks a year, holidays off with pay, carries over, i don't remember what the max is. 240 hours sounds about right.

I sit in the high 100s a lot of the time because ain't nobody got time fo dat.

slefain
slefain UberDork
9/4/15 1:10 p.m.

When I worked at a big corporation I had worked my way up to 23 days of PTO. I started at 18 days. It didn't really matter though, you were expected to get everything done, so you ended up working insane hours for the weeks before/after a vacation to make up for being out. It was also never a "good time" to take vacation. It was a use it or lose it basis, so everyone took most of December off. The place just shuts down. A few years ago I managed to swing it where I worked only the first three days of December and didn't return til January 2nd.

Now I work for myself. If I don't work, I don't get paid. But the hours are insanely flexible and I'm able to work from anywhere that has an internet connection.

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
9/4/15 1:13 p.m.

Government contractor, I get all fed holidays paid plus 2 weeks/year PTO which counts as both vacay and sick.

Working black friday in DC is... interesting... (Office is a ghost town!)

EvanR
EvanR Dork
9/4/15 1:15 p.m.

My company gives 1 week after a year of service, two weeks after two years of service, three weeks after 6 years of service, and 4 weeks after 12 years.

I will get 3 weeks this coming year.

NGTD
NGTD UltraDork
9/4/15 1:20 p.m.

Started with 20 days and after 10 years I have maxed out at 30 days. I never get a chance to take them all so right now, I have close to 50 days in the "bank"

PHeller
PHeller PowerDork
9/4/15 1:20 p.m.

I started with 15 vacation + 4 floating holidays = 19 Vacation (152 hours) + 10 "Scheduled" Holidays gives me 29 days off a year. Now that we're on the opposite coast from most family and friends, it'd be nice to shift my Schedule Holidays around so I work Holidays that are pointless and have more time at home. I still don't feel like I've got enough vacation time. Won't get any additional days for 10 years. I'll be gone by that time unless suddenly the company decides to allow us to buy time.

We also get unlimited sick time, which I'm not a fan of. I'd rather have 30 days PTO on my own schedule, because once your sick for more than a few days you start to drift into Medical Leave territory and that's paid anyway. I'm rarely sick for more than 2-3 days a year and anything more than that is "mental health days."

I'd easily take a 10% decrease in salary for that amount of wages in vacation time. That'd easily buy me another two weeks, which would be awesome.

Ashyukun
Ashyukun Dork
9/4/15 1:23 p.m.

I think I currently get 3 weeks inherently and then can 'buy' (read: take time off without pay but spread the pay hit across the whole year) up to another week of vacation, plus most major holidays and the week between Christmas and New Years off (for 'plant shutdown').

The amusing thing though is that technically the number of sick days you're allowed goes up at a ridiculous rate after you've been with the company for a while. IIRC at this point I officially have enough sick days to be 'sick' every Friday of the year and still have some to spare...

Grtechguy
Grtechguy UltimaDork
9/4/15 1:26 p.m.

After 6 years, I'm at 120 hours Vacation and 48 hours PTO. At 10 years it goes to 160 hours Vacation

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
9/4/15 1:26 p.m.

8 hours per pay period. That's for anything. Want a federal holiday? Use pto. Get the flu? Pto. Vacation? Pto. All out of give a berkeley? Pto.

But I do get some flexibility. I took today, Monday and Tuesday off. Probably only wind up using ten hours or so. I clocked out yesterday at five, and had 38 in for the week. Company don't like paying overtime, so I do my 40, abd go home. If I have to pull over 40, I just flex it out the next week.

moxnix
moxnix HalfDork
9/4/15 1:27 p.m.

Mine is about the same as the OP.
8 hours annual leave per 2 week pay period 3.69 hours sick. Can carry over 208 hours annual leave and unlimited sick.
14? holidays a year.

Mike
Mike Dork
9/4/15 1:28 p.m.

Having been there eight years, I get fifteen days paid vacation per year. I have to take at least one vacation that has me out a week straight. Use it or lose it. I also get something like a week and a half of sick, also use it or lose it. You're allowed one mental health day out of sick instead of vacation, which is nice. I also have all federal holidays paid off.

Being near New Orleans, it's odd to be in the office for Mardi Gras, but that's not a federal holiday. Still a ghost town, since probably half the company burns some vacation.

The Hoff
The Hoff SuperDork
9/4/15 1:37 p.m.

After 20 years I get 10 days vacation, paid Holidays if they fall during the work week. Supposedly I get another 3 days of sick pay according to CA state law. Haven't tried to cash in the sick pay yet.

szeis4cookie
szeis4cookie HalfDork
9/4/15 2:08 p.m.

22 days of PTO and 9 holidays here (no Columbus or Veterans Day, but they give us the Friday after Thanksgiving in addition to Thanksgiving itself). No separate sick leave. I can carry 5 days worth over to the following year.

At my old employer, I had 20 days of vacation, all 10 Federal holidays, and 5 days separate sick leave. This was all "use it or lose it" though.

The way I look at it, these two are about a wash - I don't get sick terribly often, so having more days to do what I want (and not having to burn a day of vacation for the Friday after Thanksgiving) are more valuable to me than a greater total number of days.

johnp2
johnp2 Reader
9/4/15 2:08 p.m.

3 years of service puts me at 9 days of PTO per year. This includes sick days and vacation. Ouch.

-John

PHeller
PHeller PowerDork
9/4/15 2:10 p.m.
The Hoff wrote: After 20 years I get 10 days vacation, paid Holidays if they fall during the work week. Supposedly I get another 3 days of sick pay according to CA state law. Haven't tried to cash in the sick pay yet.

Big nope from me on that employer.

HiTempguy
HiTempguy PowerDork
9/4/15 2:15 p.m.
Apexcarver wrote: Government contractor, I get all fed holidays paid plus 2 weeks/year PTO which counts as both vacay and sick. Working black friday in DC is... interesting... (Office is a ghost town!)

That's... really awful for gov work. I guess its because you are a contractor?

NGTD wrote: Started with 20 days and after 10 years I have maxed out at 30 days. I never get a chance to take them all so right now, I have close to 50 days in the "bank"

I've never understood this, how do you not get a chance to take your vacation time?

Some of youse guys definitions and abbreviations are wierd and confusing

An example from canuckland

Paid Vacation (self explanatory): 15 days/3 weeks (work monday thru friday)

Earned Paid Day off (by working a slightly longer day, you get this, its basically you work a bit longer per day and the company matches those earnings with the equivalent in time off): 12 days (one per month)

Statutory Paid Holidays (holidays that are federally or provincially mandated): 12 days (usually about one per month, December has 2 for Christmas Day and Boxing Day)

Sick Days: 10 short term illness days, and um, virtually unlimited long term disability (you can't be fired from your job for being sick up here)

So I get 27 days per year that I can choose when to take off and be paid. I additionally get an extra 12 "long weekends" per year with either a Friday or a Monday off (paid). And then paid sick days, but I don't consider those mine as if I am sick, I am usually stuck at home/minor running around. 3 more years (can't believe I've already been here for 5 ) and I get another 5 paid days of vacation.

So I guess 39 paid days including the long weekends. Its not a bad gig! And I use them ALL. The system is built on "accruing" your time, so technically if you started the job for the first time Jan 1, you'd have zero of vacation and have to earn it throughout the year. You can use vacation from next years balance so to speak (I did in 2013 because I didn't want to deal with hassles when I might have quit) and you can bank time from the previous year (but why would I?)

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UberDork
9/4/15 2:21 p.m.

15 days + holidays + shutdown between xmas and new year

PTO is hard to use though. I wouldn't mind changing my profession to something where there is a large portion of the year you simply can't work like teaching.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe SuperDork
9/4/15 2:21 p.m.

15 years same place I think I got 36 days this year between floating holidays, the week we take off for Christmas. I have unlimited sick days but use maybe two a year of those.

I have to use them or lose them so most of December this place is a ghost town.

Hal
Hal SuperDork
9/4/15 2:23 p.m.
KyAllroad wrote: I hear about teachers who only work 180 days a year

Just to clear up a common misconception: Students are in class 180 days. Locally teachers work another 10 days when students aren't in class and 5 more 1/2 days when students are dismissed early(which count for one of the 180).

Biggest problem is that you have no choice as to when you take your vacation! If you like Fall or Winter activities like hunting or skiing, you are SOL.

PHeller
PHeller PowerDork
9/4/15 2:26 p.m.
HiTempguy wrote: Paid Vacation (self explanatory): 15 days/3 weeks (work monday thru friday)

What most American's look for.

HiTempguy wrote: Earned Paid Day off (by working a slightly longer day, you get this, its basically you work a bit longer per day and the company matches those earnings with the equivalent in time off): 12 days (one per month)

I know that as "flex time" that is, flexible salaried time, or if you work 4-10s, you can take Friday off. Usually tracked by supervisors and not payroll.

HiTempguy wrote: Statutory Paid Holidays (holidays that are federally or provincially mandated): 12 days (usually about one per month, December has 2 for Christmas Day and Boxing Day)

Most of down here in the states only get what...7-10 days off for holidays? I'm envious of the places that close for Thanksgiving and Christmas. You don't get paid, but you don't get docked vacation either.

HiTempguy wrote: Sick Days: 10 short term illness days, and um, virtually unlimited long term disability (you can't be fired from your job for being sick up here)

I'm surprised you Canadians don't get more sick time. I guess since health care is cheap they expect you stay healthy.

PHeller
PHeller PowerDork
9/4/15 2:29 p.m.
Hal wrote: Biggest problem is that you have no choice as to when you take your vacation! If you like Fall or Winter activities like hunting or skiing, you are SOL.

Sure, but you also get nice long breaks over Thanksgiving and Christmas, and for most teachers the ability to sit on a beach somewhere for a few weeks during the summer far outweighs the lack of ability to hunt or ski during the week.

I'm going to try any convince my manager to let me pursue a Masters of Technology Education on the companies dime...I doubt it'll happen.

oldtin
oldtin UberDork
9/4/15 2:31 p.m.

15 years in, I have 13 holidays, 4 weeks of vacation and a bunch of sick days , oh and a couple of personal holiday days. It does roll over so currently I've got somewhere around 9 weeks of vacation accrued and about 5-6 weeks of sick time. At year end we can cash in sick time over 140 hours for $.50 on the dollar or bank it in extended sick and cash out at 1:1 when you leave the company.. Next year is the end of the roll over days. Lots of vacation coming up for Oldtin.

trigun7469
trigun7469 Dork
9/4/15 2:44 p.m.

I work in Higher Ed, I get 1 week of vacation 9 Holidays, and Usually a week off for Christmas.

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