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Tom Heath
Tom Heath Webmaster
9/9/10 3:47 p.m.
SilverFleet wrote: Oh, and what's up with folks down in Gainesville wanting to burn everything this time of year? A few years ago, it was Challenge cars. Now, it's Korans. What's next?

LOLZORZ. That sir, was funny.

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
9/9/10 3:50 p.m.
poopshovel wrote: If burning a book becomes an issue of national security, maybe we should be less concerned with the guy burning the book, and more concerned with the people who are threatening to kill us.

Ahhh!

Poopie, now you're just being a "poop shovel" for those who espouse that moral equivalency absolves blame for opposing opinions.

It seems that one side is demonized for expressing their ire while another side does the same - and both are doing it for the same damn reason.

MitchellC
MitchellC Dork
9/9/10 4:03 p.m.
poopshovel wrote: What will happen is he'll berkeley up traffic for everybody during the day, and you'll have a bunch of out-of-towners berkeleying up downtown at night.

The football game already has that taken care of. Half of Gainesville will be drunk by 12:30 with eyes glued to a field or a screen, so he really chose a bad time and place for a witch hunt.

oldopelguy
oldopelguy Dork
9/9/10 4:06 p.m.

Wouldn't it be easier to bury them under the deck? Thought that was the most successful method of getting rid of something in FL....

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 Reader
9/9/10 4:10 p.m.
wcelliot wrote: The interesting part is that the folks who most loudly defend the "rights" of the proposed Community Center builders have been absolutely silent on the "rights" of the Koran burners while virtually all of the the high profile folks that are against the Community Center are also against the Koran burners... not on their right to do so in either case, but the wisdom of doing it.

Well, maybe not. Seems they worked out a littel "let's not piss eveyone off" deal. They're going to move the Community Center and they're going to cancel Burn a Koran day. Seems they both decided not to piss everyone off just 'cause they can.

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer SuperDork
9/9/10 4:16 p.m.

THIS JUST IN: he is canceling it.

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
9/9/10 4:17 p.m.
fast_eddie_72 wrote: Seems they worked out a littel "let's not piss eveyone off" deal. They're going to move the Community Center and they're going to cancel Burn a Koran day. Seems they both decided not to piss everyone off just 'cause they can.

Good news and bad news.............

Good news - both sides have been forced to realize the folly of their choices.

Bad news - both sides have been manipulated by agendas that have done nothing to resolve the under-lying issues.

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 Reader
9/9/10 4:20 p.m.

Just can't make some people happy.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo SuperDork
9/9/10 4:24 p.m.

DEATH TO ALL EXTREMISTS!!!

Toyman01
Toyman01 SuperDork
9/9/10 4:32 p.m.

Somebody's burning something? When's dinner.

If the media would ignore him it would be a non issue. If the media ignored the community center it would be a non issue. If every one would ignore the media all kinds of things would be non issues. Maybe the real intolerant people are the media who go out of their way the find the intolerance to start with.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
9/9/10 4:32 p.m.
EastCoastMojo wrote: DEATH TO ALL EXTREMISTS!!!

YOU used all caps!

YOUR fate is sealed.

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
9/9/10 4:39 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote: Somebody's burning something? When's dinner. If the media would ignore him it would be a non issue. If the media ignored the community center it would be a non issue. If every one would ignore the media all kinds of things would be non issues. Maybe the real intolerant people are the media who go out of their way the find the intolerance to start with. Nothing to see here. Move along.

+a bazillion

The way the media outlets blow things out of proportion, and slant stories to align with their agendas is disgusting, and a real problem. It ain't just Fox either. I watched "hardball" the other day (big mistake) and Matthews was painting folks at the Glen Beck rally as crazed extremists that were brainwashed like Moonies into following Beck's every wish. Hideously slanted, and painful to watch. This kind of drivel is destructive and insulting. Unfortunately, it is coming from all sides.

wcelliot
wcelliot Reader
9/9/10 4:57 p.m.

Ever wonder why no one is apparently concerned about insulting Christianity and infuriating the 2 billion + Christians around the world to rise up and attack?

If Christianity is responsible for more murders in history than any other religion and are intolerant bigoted hate mongers prone to violence and dreams of theocracy (as anti-Christians would lead you to believe), you'd think this would be a genuine concern.

Hope those 2B don't find out about this: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/20/us.military.bibles.burned/index.html

or there would be hell to pay!

poopshovel
poopshovel SuperDork
9/9/10 5:02 p.m.
oldsaw wrote:
poopshovel wrote: If burning a book becomes an issue of national security, maybe we should be less concerned with the guy burning the book, and more concerned with the people who are threatening to kill us.
Ahhh! Poopie, now you're just being a "poop shovel" for those who espouse that moral equivalency absolves blame for opposing opinions. It seems that one side is demonized for expressing their ire while another side does the same - and both are doing it for the same damn reason.

I'm failing to connect the dots here. Are you saying that threatening to murder an entire religious group is equal to burning a religious book? I'm not being snarky, I'm just not getting what you're saying.

racerfink
racerfink Reader
9/9/10 5:07 p.m.

SilverFleet is certainly equating the two, Poop.

"These donkeys burning the Koran are just as messed up as the extremists of any other religion. They are not proving any point other than there are idiots everywhere in the world that do stupid things."

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
9/9/10 5:11 p.m.

I think what he is saying (if I am saying I think what he is saying about what you think he is saying...) is that one side is demonized for burning flags etc. while the other for burning books.

Both are just trying to get a rise out he of the other (working btw).

Both are really just burning some cloth or paper. Kind of the source of the problem here, putting WAY too much value in symbols. But not much of a reach really for most religious types (religions), its really a big part of what most of them do (in a way).

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 Reader
9/9/10 5:12 p.m.
wcelliot wrote: Ever wonder why no one is apparently concerned about insulting Christianity and infuriating the 2 billion + Christians around the world to rise up and attack?

I saw Ron Paul on TV yesterday. He made a good point. Said something like burning the Quran is certainly offensive to them, but compared to sending our troop over there and bombing them it kind of pales.

If I was some kind of Jihad radical over in Afghanistan I don’t think I would fear what would happen if I were to offend the U.S., I would feel like I was living it.

VanillaSky
VanillaSky HalfDork
9/9/10 5:14 p.m.

This is going to get really interesting.

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 Reader
9/9/10 5:17 p.m.
VanillaSky wrote: This is going to get really interesting.

Not really, just a bunch of know-it-alls spouting off on the internet trying to prove they're smarter than anyone who disagrees with them... again.

Eh, I'm out.

Toyman01
Toyman01 SuperDork
9/9/10 5:17 p.m.
VanillaSky wrote: This is going to get really interesting.

Obama, Glenn Beck and Ron Paul mentioned in the same thread. Isn't that kind of like matter and antimatter.

z31maniac
z31maniac SuperDork
9/9/10 5:21 p.m.

Ahem, I see nothing where the Imam says a deal was cut.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909/ap_on_re_us/quran_burning

The pastor FL chicken'd out after a bunch of big talk.

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
9/9/10 5:27 p.m.
poopshovel wrote:
oldsaw wrote:
poopshovel wrote: If burning a book becomes an issue of national security, maybe we should be less concerned with the guy burning the book, and more concerned with the people who are threatening to kill us.
Ahhh! Poopie, now you're just being a "poop shovel" for those who espouse that moral equivalency absolves blame for opposing opinions. It seems that one side is demonized for expressing their ire while another side does the same - and both are doing it for the same damn reason.
I'm failing to connect the dots here. Are you saying that threatening to murder an entire religious group is equal to burning a religious book? I'm not being snarky, I'm just not getting what you're saying.

Allow me to clarify........

There is an "element" that is quick to disparage anyone who disagrees with "their" concept of Constitutional rights. I believe that those who demand "tolerance" but won't embrace it themselve's are hypocrites.

We're on the same page, with slightly different interpretations.

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
9/9/10 5:34 p.m.

This kind of sums it up pretty well:

http://i.imgur.com/FRhwF.jpg

It's a pic but I won't hotlink it because it has a bad word at the bottom (besides, I don't want to use up all the interenets)

wcelliot
wcelliot Reader
9/9/10 5:36 p.m.
fast_eddie_72 wrote: If I was some kind of Jihad radical over in Afghanistan I don’t think I would fear what would happen if I were to offend the U.S., I would feel like I was living it.

Good point...

zomby woof
zomby woof Dork
9/9/10 6:26 p.m.
fast_eddie_72 wrote:
VanillaSky wrote: This is going to get really interesting.
Not really, just a bunch of know-it-alls spouting off on the internet trying to prove they're smarter than anyone who disagrees with them... again. Eh, I'm out.

Now there is some wisdom

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