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JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas Dork
4/24/13 8:03 a.m.

I like pie.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UberDork
4/24/13 8:29 a.m.

To the OP.

They should snatch this guy up and drop him in the middle of the largest minefield they can find and let hm use his device to find his way out.

On the other hand: I remember during Desert Storm we were getting quite a few deaths from friendly fire (Apaches hitting Bradleys etc). An inventor in the US came up with a cheap ($100) IFF device, but the military wouldn't use it because it wasn't expensive enough. They (military) later came up with thir version that costs thousands. I understand that the original device might not be suitable for long term usage, but for a spur of the moment need, it could have saved lives.

slefain
slefain UltraDork
4/24/13 9:16 a.m.
Mitchell wrote: I met a machinist back in high school that made a knockoff for an OEM tank part that was essentially a folded piece of EDM'ed sheet metal. A few bucks of material, and a little time resulted in a $450 part.

Could be worse. I know of a "restoration quality" part on the market that is 100% exactly the same as the "budget quality" part, yet the prices are wildly different. Same part number from the same supplier, just a different part number. Same box, package, instructions and everything. The seller laughs it off saying "nobody ever buys both, so they will never notice." I don't miss the parts industry sometimes.

Sultan
Sultan HalfDork
4/24/13 9:16 a.m.
SVreX wrote: It's OK. Governments make trillions defrauding citizens.

You sir are a pile of awesomeness!

Osterkraut
Osterkraut UberDork
4/24/13 9:42 a.m.
Josh wrote:
poopshovel wrote:
SVreX wrote: It's OK. Governments make trillions defrauding citizens.
Yeah. Toilet seats come to mind.
Seriously? This one again? You do know realize the famed "$600 toilet seat" was a scratch designed and built assembly to replace out of production/out of stock parts on a freaking AIRPLANE, right? But I suppose you could have just swung by Home Depot on your lunchbreak and found something that would have worked just as well...
The P-3C Orion antisubmarine aircraft went into service in 1962. Twenty-five years later it was determined that the toilet shroud, the cover that fits over the toilet, needed replacement. Since the airplane was out of production this would require new tooling to produce. These on-board toilets required a uniquely shaped, molded fiberglass shroud that had to satisfy specifications for vibration resistance, weight, and durability. The molds had to be specially made, as it had been decades since their original production. The price reflected the design work and the cost of the equipment to manufacture them. Lockheed Corp. charged $34,560 for 54 toilet covers, or $640 each.[2] President Reagan held a televised news conference in 1987, where he held up one of these shrouds and stated: "We didn't buy any $600 toilet seat. We bought a $600 molded plastic cover for the entire toilet system." A Pentagon spokesman, Glenn Flood stated, "The original price we were charged was $640, not just for a toilet seat, but for the large molded plastic assembly covering the entire seat, tank and full toilet assembly. The seat itself cost $9 and some cents.…

It's funny because the toilet seat cover on one of our jets is a Spongebob Squarepants one.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UberDork
4/24/13 11:33 a.m.
PHeller wrote: And lets not forget that its PRIVATE organizations who are ripping off the government, whether ours or others, in this case.

While this is certainly true and despicable, it is also true that any buyer should do his due diligence before making any purchase. Buyer beware. Too bad it doesn't always (ever?) get done when it's free money courtesy of taxpayers.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
4/24/13 11:39 a.m.

You don't really think we paid $600 for a toilet seat do you?

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
4/24/13 12:11 p.m.
Fueled by Caffeine wrote: Pretty old scam. Look to history and you will find centuries worth of people defrauding the government. My favorite was the poor quality shoes sold to the union army at one point. They lasted about 2.5 feet of marching before they returned to the earth.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't regret not cashing in on the "Let's start a fake electric car business!" idea a few years ago. I also regret not getting my free 8 seater $5k free golf cart....I mean, "electric vehicle."

I'd also be lying if I said the fact that the words "toilet seat" apparently almost made Josh's head explode didn't make me chuckle.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UberDork
4/24/13 12:17 p.m.
JohnInKansas wrote: I like pie.

What kind!? Please be aware that your answer (if it's WRONG ) could set off a E36 M3 storm of belligerent name-calling and copious slinging of mud.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
4/24/13 12:24 p.m.

I like Blueberry Goat Cheese Pie.

http://on.aol.com/video/diners--drive-ins-and-dives--blueberry-goat-cheese-pie-recipe-517730752

http://www.food.com/recipe/blueberry-goat-cheese-pie-449941

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
4/24/13 12:28 p.m.

I sell these to the government!

The most expensive pie in the world

JoeyM
JoeyM MegaDork
4/24/13 1:22 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: I sell these to the government! The most expensive pie in the world

You're doing the dessert flounder wrong

integraguy
integraguy UltraDork
4/24/13 1:56 p.m.

It's amazing how some of the folks here twisted this around.

In my view, anyone who makes even $0.10 on an "invention" that they claim will save lives and pretty much puts everyone using it into a very dangerous/life threatening situation deserves their own special hell on earth for a very long time. I also agree, however, that ANY government buyer who buys something like this....and (apparently?) never tests it BEFORE, or even after purchase, needs to spend a slightly reduced amount of time in a similar corner of hell on earth.

IF, someone had invented a bomb detector that worked and sold it at a 5000%...that would be one thing. But to sell and make that huge profit on something that puts (among others) your fellow citizens in extreme danger........that person is lower than scum. And the guy still claims it's a working invention.

integraguy
integraguy UltraDork
4/24/13 1:57 p.m.

BTW, I've flown on a P3-C a few times and used to work on them....the toilet seat isn't something you would find at Home Depot/Lowes.

yamaha
yamaha UltraDork
4/24/13 2:30 p.m.

In reply to integraguy:

Best question, has anyone bothered to prove it doesn't work? Because even if it works occasionally, he is right, no matter what his original intentions. I know, I am playing devils advocate here, and if they don't work period, then yes, he is one of the biggest douchebags of all time.

Its kinda like using a metal detector to sweep for landmines, the Nazi's, being shiny happy people and all, would build mines out of wooden boxes to mix in with the metallic mines, hoping to kill the one sweeping the area.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
4/24/13 2:48 p.m.
yamaha wrote: In reply to integraguy: Best question, has anyone bothered to prove it doesn't work? Because even if it works occasionally, he is right, no matter what his original intentions. I know, I am playing devils advocate here, and if they don't work period, then yes, he is one of the biggest douchebags of all time.

Would you like to buy a clock? I guarantee you it is accurate at least twice a day.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
4/24/13 5:17 p.m.
Sultan wrote:
SVreX wrote: It's OK. Governments make trillions defrauding citizens.
You sir are a pile of awesomeness!

Well, I guess that means I've been called both a pile of awesomeness, and a stinking pile in the same thread!

Oh well...Some folks have their panties on way too tight.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH UltimaDork
4/24/13 5:24 p.m.
yamaha wrote: In reply to integraguy: Best question, has anyone bothered to prove it doesn't work? Because even if it works occasionally, he is right, no matter what his original intentions. I know, I am playing devils advocate here, and if they don't work period, then yes, he is one of the biggest douchebags of all time. Its kinda like using a metal detector to sweep for landmines, the Nazi's, being shiny happy people and all, would build mines out of wooden boxes to mix in with the metallic mines, hoping to kill the one sweeping the area.

It's possible to prove it doesn't work because it contains no detection equipment. His first model was a dead lump of material like a hammer, the second one just had some flashing LEDs.

Beyond that, what he's proposing it does is basically impossible. A sniffer sensor could detect explosive compounds if they were escaping but this thing is supposed to detect "a bomb" through any material.

yamaha
yamaha UltraDork
4/24/13 7:18 p.m.

In reply to Beer Baron:

That's better than my Focus's clock on the radio......

Also, never mind......they seem to have proved it didn't work, ever.

z31maniac
z31maniac PowerDork
4/24/13 9:59 p.m.
SVreX wrote:
Sultan wrote:
SVreX wrote: It's OK. Governments make trillions defrauding citizens.
You sir are a pile of awesomeness!
Well, I guess that means I've been called both a pile of awesomeness, and a stinking pile in the same thread! Oh well...Some folks have their panties on way too tight.

I would typically agree, except it seems this time it put our soldiers lives on the line.

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
4/24/13 10:12 p.m.

Toilet seat, toilet seat, toilet seat.

Mr_Estrotica
Mr_Estrotica New Reader
4/24/13 10:48 p.m.

Solution: Mandate that all "bombs" have at least one golf ball in them.

You now have a working "bomb" detector.

JoeyM
JoeyM MegaDork
4/24/13 11:01 p.m.
poopshovel wrote: Toilet seat,

^^^somehow this is not surprising.

Next up, a two girls one cup reference

poopshovel
poopshovel UltimaDork
4/24/13 11:03 p.m.

Double-turds!!!

JoeyM
JoeyM MegaDork
4/24/13 11:09 p.m.

They'll need double mint gum to get the taste out of their mouths...

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