I'm one of the happy Obama voters today...but I'll admit, I'm a little sad for John McCain. Watching his concession speech, I was struck by how gracious and classy he was. He's probably the only Republican candidate in recent memory that I seriously considered voting for. Youse guys in Arizona are lucky to have him as a senator.
agree 100%. Excellent speech.
I also agree. I'm glad I watched it.
The speech had such a different tone from his campaign. That was a glimpse of the guy I liked, not the angst filled man that he became during the campaign.
ignorant wrote: The speech had such a different tone from his campaign. That was a glimpse of the guy I liked, not the angst filled man that he became during the campaign.
+1 I agree.
ignorant wrote: The speech had such a different tone from his campaign. That was a glimpse of the guy I liked, not the angst filled man that he became during the campaign.
I had mentally called the election for Obama at the last presidential debate. O was eloquent, presidential, and articulate, while McCain seemed lost, out of touch, on his heels, and just generally a mean, bitter old man.
I hope this is an indication that the tone of the campaign was just because he was grasping at straws/ trying to make something happen- I really liked the guy back in 2000, but he seemed a lot different this time around.
Jake wrote:ignorant wrote: The speech had such a different tone from his campaign. That was a glimpse of the guy I liked, not the angst filled man that he became during the campaign.I hope this is an indication that the tone of the campaign was just because he was grasping at straws/ trying to make something happen- I really liked the guy back in 2000, but he seemed a lot different this time around.
Agree.. Loved him in 2000. I think the guy listened to his advisers too much then tried to correct and everything went to hell.
Ditto the above. I really wanted him for prez in '00, and had high expectations for him this time, but he just seemed a bit out of touch.
My wife heard something about a possible cabinet position for McCain? That would be a classy move on Obama's part, and probably go a long way to bring over more supporters.
I think they both showed a lot of class at the end. Hopefully they will be able to work together in the future. Certainly did not look like any hard feeling between them. I, too, liked McCain a lot more before this campain turned so nasty.
petegossett wrote: Ditto the above. I really wanted him for prez in '00, and had high expectations for him this time, but he just seemed a bit out of touch. My wife heard something about a possible cabinet position for McCain? That would be a classy move on Obama's part, and probably go a long way to bring over more supporters.
Obama could do a whole lot worse than McCain as Secretary of anything. Defense, maybe? I know they disagree on the Iraq War, but having a Devil's Advocate that you actually trust is probably the best way to keep yourself honest.
Same thing bit Elizabeth Dole in the derriere so I hear, issuing a last minute ad bashing her opponent as "godless" or something like that. Not something you ought to do in the South from what I understand.
psteav wrote: Obama could do a whole lot worse than McCain as Secretary of anything. Defense, maybe? I know they disagree on the Iraq War, but having a Devil's Advocate that you actually trust is probably the best way to keep yourself honest.
Although I don't disagree, it almost certainly won't happen. It would never get comfortable between the two. And McCain would probably be happier as an influential Senator.
I'm not up on the history of this, but it seems like Senators don't often get picked for cabinet positions.
I wish that McCain had run more true to what I feel like his actual beliefs are. I think he viewed this as his last chance to be Prez. In an effort to win he called in the political pitbulls. In this case, that didn't pay off.
While McCain did go a bit negative in the end I think this campaign was much more positive than others have been.
Maybe now we'll see the old McCain back in the senate. Doing his maverick thing and ticking off the jerks who so desperately need it.
fastEddie wrote: Same thing bit Elizabeth Dole in the derriere so I hear, issuing a last minute ad bashing her opponent as "godless" or something like that. Not something you ought to do in the South from what I understand.
The ad was issued by a Republican funded entity and not Elizabeth Dole herself. It was pretty pathetic, because her opponent is an elder in her church and she teaches sunday school.
Dole's campaign may have been the worst run one in the country.
Yes, very unfortunate for McCain (not being the old "true" McCain, and that moron from Alaska seemed to be his big downfalls). Of course if he wasn't the "Bushy" McCain, he may have lost a lot of the (apparently the only good part of America according to the moron) rural / southern votes.
Yet another victim of the political blood bath that is the Bush presidency, which crushed a lot of good people politically. I does look like Colin Powell might be able to make a bit of a comeback though.
I think he will likely do more in the Senate though, which actually has power over most of the things they argued about during the campaign.
If those two speeches have genuinely set the tone for the next four years, then I think we can look forward to some real progress.
He was a class act...his audience not so much.
I concur with the "I liked him in 2000" sentiments. This time around I just got a sensation he sold his soul for the nomination. The conession speech was back to the McCain I truely admire, "America's Servant" and such. I did think Obama's first mention of us being better off becuase of peaple like him was awesome as well.
Respect
petegossett wrote: My wife heard something about a possible cabinet position for McCain? That would be a classy move on Obama's part, and probably go a long way to bring over more supporters.
I think that would bring us all closer. How cool would that be?
McCain himself has been very classy through the whole thing. I think McCain would have made a great president, there's still a good bit of party outsider left in him. I am not sure I could ever forgive him for choosing Palin though, it was totally out of character for him and clearly a strategic move. I liked hearing that Obama decided to nix the fireworks at the last minute after his speech.
Yep he was classy and now he is gone. And i hope he stays gone. Never did like McCain. Something irks me about a man who made him self politically famous by selling out his own party. I don't see his "maverickness" as an advantage. It's quite easy to be bipartisan, all you have to do is compromise on your own beliefs. I guess this is what we get for nominating a semi-republican. Still, republicans nominated him so their is really no one to blame but ourselves. Maybe now our party will realize that you don't win elections by compromising with the other side. Sorry if this comes off a little strong but i felt like i needed to get it off my chest.
JohnGalt wrote: It's quite easy to be bipartisan, all you have to do is compromise on your own beliefs.
WTF? I think everyone can agree that selling out his beliefs helped sink McCain, but I doubt anyone other than a partisan blockhead would think he was a sellout prior to 2006. Sorry if this comes off as a little strong but I think partisan shills are R-tards.
John, what do you describe as a "True Republican"? I ask because your avatar and screen name imply you are a rand fan?
bastomatic wrote:JohnGalt wrote: It's quite easy to be bipartisan, all you have to do is compromise on your own beliefs.WTF? I think everyone can agree that selling out his beliefs helped sink McCain, but I doubt anyone other than a partisan blockhead would think he was a sellout prior to 2006. Sorry if this comes off as a little strong but I think partisan shills are R-tards.
So when President Obama moves to the center (after courting the extreme left portion of his party), will that make him a D-mon?
I'm just asking............
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