aircooled said:In reply to Steve_Jones :
Yeah, it's almost like maybe we probably should not post socially (or politically obviously) charged memes. Posting such things essentially demands some sort of reply, or it implies concent to the implied message (we are hunting CEO's now vs: no, some vigilante clown took the law in their own hands and murdered someone and that is not OK in any way, even if he is an a-hole).
The implied message that Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny are hunting CEOs?
aircooled said:In reply to Keith Tanner :
I just find is a bit strange that the owner / head of a company would be OK with the concept of a disgruntled customer (even if it involved death) seeking revenge by killing the head of a company, which you seem to be(?). Or more to the point, that you would be OK with people supporting that(?)
I also really don't see how threat of violence or death is a way to change how health care works. Yes, it bring attention (very poorly), but there are VERY few who are unaware of how F-d up the HC system is. HC exec make lots of money and can afford a lot of security. Who do "they" kill now?
If a new company props up, let's call it Walking Miata, that makes lower quality versions of the high quality product that FM makes, to maximize profit, and one of those less the FM quality products is a primary factor in the death of someone, despite being entirely legally and regulation wise proper. You think killing that owner is a reasonable act? I certainly would not think so. You don't think that sets a horrible precedent, that might be used to justify acts against, let's say, far more well intended companies, and their leaders?
Like I say, I understand the act. The support for it is a bit dumbfounding to me. I mean, I understand why also, but much like the act I very much don't agree with it or excuse it. I understand why Putin invaded Ukraine. I certainly don't support the act in any way, nor do I excuse those that do.
And no, not ironic:
I am the owner of a company. One that has always striven to be ethical, even when it hurts our sales and profit margins. That does not make me anything like the CEO - who is paid more annually than I will make in a lifetime - of a company that chooses regularly to withhold medical care because it will hurt the bottom line.
A company making shoddy knockoffs of our quality products? That exists. One of them recently went out of business and I was not sad about that. I'm sure the owner of that company saw some financial pain because of it. Again, I'm not sad because that money was not earned ethically.
I understand why people are celebrating the act. That's not necessarily the same as condoning it, but I can see how someone would be pushed so far as to take that action. Remember, we're not talking about negligence here. We're talking about deliberate decisions at the individual level. If you choose to make your living directly off the suffering of many others, well, decisions can have consequences.
Ironically, I went to high school with Alanis. I was in a band that backed her up once or twice.
In reply to Steve_Jones :
Keeping my personal feelings out of it.
It is clearly alluding to a real-life event.
That event is rightfully controversial in such a way that it opens the door for people to make strong, good-faith arguments from multiple angles. Those are discussions people probably should be having them.
But this thread in this board is not the place for those.
Even if you agree with the sentiments behind these memes, they open a door for discussions that belong face to face.
Beer Baron 🍺 said:
But this thread in this board is not the place for those.
100%. That was my point.
In reply to johndej :
In reply to Stampie :
I wonder what the +/- is for CEO decisions vs Vigilantism?
The irony is that when it come to politics or controversial topics, this group is just as divided as the rest of the country. The difference is politics, religion, and money are typically kept out of the conversation or the subject changed (or threads locked) before anyone goes too far.
914Driver said:
Haven't seen a manger in years. Straight up dino fight
Yes. Yes I am.
Alright, consider my pot stirring concluded.
Please start a CEO Assassination thread if you need to discuss this. No more E36 M3 stirring here.
Mod talk over
I should probably feel bad about his demise but as someone who spent the well over a decade getting them to cover things that were contractually obligated to for my wife, and am now trying to get them to cover a treatment for my leg even though I wasn't as close to amputation as they feel I should have been before seeking it, I'm struggling to. 
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