Took the family to see this Sci-fi flick today (New Years Eve). We had a good time, I really enjoyed it.
Interesting premise, pretty people, cool special effects, all the makings of some decent cinema.
Took the family to see this Sci-fi flick today (New Years Eve). We had a good time, I really enjoyed it.
Interesting premise, pretty people, cool special effects, all the makings of some decent cinema.
Wife and I want to see it. Maybe this week.
Glad to hear it's a good sci-fi movie. The last trailer calling it "Titanic in space" made me want to see it less.
Not sure about this one. After "Arrival" I trust the hive a little less than I used to.
Can we discuss the ethics of waking the female protagonist up just cause Jim was horny? Rape? Murder? Perhaps a new category of creepy behavior?
On the other hand, I hear that there are some awesome blowing-up scenes, so that should justify everything.
I think it would go a little beyond "horny" to be alone for a year, unable to speak to anyone else and know that you would live out your life that way. Utterly and completely alone.
Waking someone else up to share that isn't something to take lightly by any means but I can understand it given his situation.
Liked it, but didn't love it. Great visual effects, good acting, cool concept but... wife and I felt the story was a little too predictable and somewhat bland.
I somehow talked my wife into going through the Alien franchise over Christmas break and watching Passengers is like Alien without the alien.
KyAllroad wrote: I think it would go a little beyond "horny" to be alone for a year, unable to speak to anyone else and know that you would live out your life that way. Utterly and completely alone.
I don't know... that kinda sounds like heaven to me... 
I just saw it. I am a classic sci fi fan (Blade Runner, Solaris etc) and appreciate rather heavy SciFi.
I liked it. Not my favorite sci fi movie, but a good movie with some pretty good classic sci fi themes. Far more a general audience movie the The Arrival. If you know nothing about the movie, it will be even better.
I will say, disappointingly, the movie poster effectively spoils about half of the movie. The trailer spoils about 3/4 of it. Not terribly, but it would be a much better movie if you went in cold. I really tried to avoid seeing / hearing the trailer, but unfortunately picked up major points.... argh.
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I thought the movie would have been more effective if it was sequenced a bit different. I think they should have started with the two, then done flash backs to why they are there, eventually leading up to the first revelation of waking her (it would have been a pretty good twist). It of course would have been a bit less of a general audience movie.
The science was pretty good in it. The throwing of the door to reverse course in zero-G was good, although it would be very difficult not to induce a very serious spin (which did happen, but not as much as would likely happen). The scene with the water in zero-G was interesting, but I am pretty sure rather inaccurate. In that case, being in water is the one thing that would allow you to move in zero-G (not sure why she was being drawn to the center).
Ian F wrote:KyAllroad wrote: I think it would go a little beyond "horny" to be alone for a year, unable to speak to anyone else and know that you would live out your life that way. Utterly and completely alone.I don't know... that kinda sounds like heaven to me...
No, that's not heaven, that's what insomnia feels like.
Ian F wrote: I don't know... that kinda sounds like heaven to me...
I suspect you are kidding a bit but the concept of being alone is one thing, the concept of being alone for the rest of your life with no escape is an entirely different thing.
NOHOME wrote: Can we discuss the ethics of waking the female protagonist up just cause Jim was horny? Rape? Murder? Perhaps a new category of creepy behavior?
Did you see this movie? Did you sleep through it?
Horny? Rape? Murder??
Seriously??
aircooled wrote: I thought the movie would have been more effective if it was sequenced a bit different. I think they should have started with the two, then done flash backs to why they are there, eventually leading up to the first revelation of waking her (it would have been a pretty good twist). It of course would have been a bit less of a general audience movie.
I think that is a very good idea.
wife and I walked away liking it but with completely different thoughts about the underlying theme of the movie. She said it was to live your life to the fullest and enjoy it no matter what life brings you. I thought it was if you're stuck on a ship for 90 years make sure you pick the hottest chick to wake up.
NOHOME wrote: Not sure about this one. After "Arrival" I trust the hive a little less than I used to.
I must have missed the thread on Arrival, but I thought it was really good!
Nicole and I went to see it. The first act was better executed than the second IMHO, and by the end it just seemed like they were checking space movie boxes until the credits rolled. Still, though, I didn't hate it. "Interesting premise, pretty people, cool special effects, all the makings of some decent cinema." is about right.
If they designed a ship so sophisticated that it could intelligently divert processing resources from everything from the vacuum cleaner to the elevator, why in the world wasn't the spare processing brick for the reactor plugged into the grid and available as excess capacity? Airplanes have redundant magnetos and nuclear reactors have redundant control systems, so it's insane that this ship only had one connected, with the spare left in a crate for the sleeping crew to replace.
In reply to Tom Suddard:
Oh, there's plenty of things we can pick on...
My favorite was the magnetic boots. They press the "disengage" button to jump off the end of the runway into deep space, but don't seem to have any problem walking without pressing the disengage button to lift each foot!
The visual package they created was stunning. Exactly what I would expect from a high end commercial company selling opportunities to populate another planet.
It was good entertainment, and a better romance than I expected (I should have taken the wife).
I'd give it a B-
Bobzilla wrote: wife and I walked away liking it but with completely different thoughts about the underlying theme of the movie. She said it was to live your life to the fullest and enjoy it no matter what life brings you. I thought it was if you're stuck on a ship for 90 years make sure you pick the hottest chick to wake up.
I got in trouble for a short time because of the movie. After it SWMBO somewhat predictably asked me, "If you woke up early like that, would you have woken me up?"
My mistake- which is something I really need to work on as I've still not gotten the hang of it- was answering with too much information. I said, "Yes, if we were to get on a ship like that now and a similar thing happened, I would want to wake you up." If I'd stopped there I'd probably have been fine- but I'm me and I tend to overanalyze and over-explain and continued, "But if we had gone to sleep as complete strangers I'd probably try and not wake anyone up."
Because to me, waking up my wife- who I (correctly, incidentally) assumed would rather live out her life alone with me than to wake up 90 years later to find me dead- would be very different than waking up someone who was a complete stranger and condemn them to the same lonely life with me. She of course said, "You mean you wouldn't have seen me and fallen in love with me and wanted to wake me up so we could fall in love?"
Sometimes I just need to learn to keep my mouth shut. 
Did quite enjoy the movie though. Had some issues- there's no way that the ship wouldn't have a self-repair capability in the case of damage to the drive system and/or wouldn't have a means to wake up the engineering crew to fix major problems (and, as such, would obviously have had the means to put people back into hibernation as well after doing so).
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I very much agree with the repair notes above. The overloaded system concept was silly, and was clearly just a plot justification. Waking up and putting to sleep a crew member, as noted, seems like a very obvious need.
The other sort of plot hole I noted was that it seem highly unlikely there would be only one auto doc on the entire ship (of 5000 passengers). I would suspect maybe at least one per habitation ring area (of which there where 3 or 4 I think).
I am not sure the magnetic shoe thing is a big issue though. The magnetism on a boot could reduce when lifted up on (only one at a time of course). With such obviously advanced technology, I am sure you could justify the boot technology, however it might work.
The economics / business / societal issues shown in the movie were interesting (essentially making an association with the old company town, company store concept), without being too heavy handed, as many movies can be (I am looking at you Elysium)
SVreX wrote: Oh, there's plenty of things we can pick on... My favorite was the magnetic boots. They press the "disengage" button to jump off the end of the runway into deep space, but don't seem to have any problem walking without pressing the disengage button to lift each foot!
Not having seen more than the trailer, let me say this: my low-end CPAP machine, designed and built circa 2013, has zero problem seamlessly varying the air pressure to anticipate my variable inhalations and exhalations, so well that it feels like it's not even there. I imagine that electromagnetic boots designed and built in an era of mass interplanetary colonization could easily have flex and motion sensors to automatically process when to engage and disengage individual boots as you walk around. It would be transparent to the user until you decided to override it via the button and jump off of something.
aircooled wrote: -- Spoilers below -- The economics / business / societal issues shown in the movie were interesting (essentially making an association with the old company town, company store concept), without being too heavy handed, as many movies can be (I am looking at you Elysium)
Yeah, there was one thing about that where I had to scratch my head when combined with other info. So, at least the passengers on the ship didn't have any kind of FTL communications as evidenced by the attempt to call customer service on earth ending up taking until about when the ship would have arrived to get an answer. Assuming they don't have some kind of FTL comm that the plebes don't have access to and is reserved for the crew/company themselves- how would the company even know how much money they had made? How would they even know that the ship had arrived safely until over a century later? How did the company make quadrillions of dollars from a world they potentially didn't know hadn't been invaded by space squirrels and all their resources there destroyed?
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