I recommend getting a passport for travel. Domestic or international, it's a good standard that's accepted everywhere.
Toyman01 wrote: Pretty sure SC has fixed this issue. You will have to go to the dmv and get a new license.
Good to hear. I'm surprised our legislature fixxered anything.
And talk about timing, my license expires Sept of this year.
PA doesn't comply but I use my passport anyway just out of habit.
I forgot how much the TSA website reads like an East German buzzword bingo propaganda piece.
Have used my passport for the last 8(?) years, way to go Oklahoma.
The state where we file lawsuits against drugmakers instead of like, you know, taking care of crumbling infrastructure, horrifically underpaid teachers, etc.
I think MO is now an opt in State. The base ID doesn't qualify but you can get a free non-drivers license that is compliant.
I think PA just passed legislation to get us into compliance, but they won't start issuing the new licenses for a couple years. Mine expires in May I think, so I guess I'll get to PAY for another one like a year after that
Help me understand the low percentage of Americans who have passports? Our head office assumes that any of us on the Canadian side can travel the world on a moment's notice, but is is a big deal to get someone from the US side documented enough to visit Canada?
I genuinely thought they were going to start looking at getting rid of the TSA because they're own tests and audits have proven them to be completely useless.
Did see this article a while ago, and being that PA wasn't on the list at the time I started to apply for a passport. Around hour 3 at the post office, I decided I don't need to leave the country for a while and could drive anywhere else I needed to go.
Putting my CA(approved) license next to a PA(unapproved), I didn't see anything that couldn't be easily replicated at an office supply store, and I'm still not sure what the differences are.
NOHOME wrote: Help me understand the low percentage of Americans who have passports? Our head office assumes that any of us on the Canadian side can travel the world on a moment's notice, but is is a big deal to get someone from the US side documented enough to visit Canada?
I had one but let it expire. I don't need to go overseas that much, and I suspect most of us don't.
NOHOME wrote: Help me understand the low percentage of Americans who have passports? Our head office assumes that any of us on the Canadian side can travel the world on a moment's notice, but is is a big deal to get someone from the US side documented enough to visit Canada?
We have (had not sure if it's current status) an agreement with Canada and Mexico for a long time where you could just use your birth certificate to get across the borders. Looking up numbers it appears 46% of the population has a passport.
This guy explains it pretty well. With citations even.
In reply to NOHOME:
Because Americans are notorious for not traveling beyond the border. Not that I can say anything - I haven't left the country since 2004 (for B.C. Canada) and prior to that, 1974 when my father was stationed in Okinawa.
It doesn't help it's slightly annoying to get a passport... the passport offices close early... at least near me.
NOHOME wrote: Help me understand the low percentage of Americans who have passports? Our head office assumes that any of us on the Canadian side can travel the world on a moment's notice, but is is a big deal to get someone from the US side documented enough to visit Canada?
International Travel generally requires either living near a border or an expensive plane flight.
Since you don't need a passport if you don't travel internationally (and the fact that a passport costs a nontrivial amount of money and is a pain in the ass to get), most Americans don't bother.
I've only traveled outside of the country once, when I had a business trip to Germany. The project I was on got canceled, and I haven't bothered to get another passport.
Canadians should have the same argument against having passports then, yet they are like 20% more likely to have one. As a US citizen living abroad, I know all about it being a PITA to renew, but can't imagine giving up the ability to travel spontaneously anywhere in the world. I mean, what if you should have a sudden need to be in a country without an extradition treaty?
Americans who want to visit Canada can get an "Enhanced" driver's license, but from what I can see, it does not seem any easier to get than a passport.
In reply to NOHOME:
The card isn't any different. It's literally the same process just for 1/3 of the price for the passport.
The article I linked talks about how much less time off Americans have compared to the rest of the world and I'm sure the economic situation plays in a little bit as well. I'm also sure that the US media attitude of "If it bleeds it leads" doesn't help the perception of what it's actually like to travel to other countries since we only hear the negative stuff or just don't hear anything (When was the last time Chile made the US national news?)
I've got nothing to say as I'm sort of waiting for mine to expire so I can get a different book. I get some odd questions since mine has 5 work visas in it from Afghanistan and large number of stamps from other middle eastern countries.
Minnesota doesn't. Thankfully I now reside in florida. P pretty much have to give a dick print to get id here, but I can get on an airplane!
I used my retired Army ID with no issues. Have a Passport and when I worked had a Gubbyment Passport (red). I was told that if I'm on a plane that gets hijacked, bury it in a magazine nearby and shut up.
New York has an "Enhanced Driver's License", I think you need a birth certificate or more documentation but it lets you travel to Canada and Mexico easily.
Dan
That article is effed up.
It says 9 states won't be valid, and 24 states comply. Somebody is not too good at math.
According to the Homeland Security RealID website, there are only 2 states that are noncompliant- Missouri and Minnesota (although Federal officials may continue to accept Enhanced Driver’s Licenses from MN).
SVreX wrote: That article is effed up. It says 9 states won't be valid, and 24 states comply. Somebody is not too good at math.
The difference is states that are noncompliant, but have agreements to allow their ID to work past the deadline. That's in the story too.
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