No thread on the escaped convicts?

They had help getting tools etc. from an employee who is now in jail (not the same jail). My wife grew up in that area, it really put a damper on summer events. I did see one guy mowing his lawn with a sidearm....

Mrs. 914's cousin just retired as a Corrections Officer, he says prisoner rights groups fought for and won things like when doing bed checks at night, guards cannot shine a light in the prisoner's face to confirm it's not just a stack of pillows. It's cruel and inhumane or something.

Think they are still in the area?

http://time.com/3920497/prison-break-joyce-mitchell/

I can't imagine they stuck around the area. If you can make a plan to break out of maximum security you should have the sense to run as far and as far as possible. If it was me I'd have made Mexico within a couple of days.

I want to know what the hell tools they used so I can buy them. These guys ought to make a commercial.

That's some straight up Andy Dufresne E36 M3 right there. Too bad they didn't get stuck in the pipe on the way out.

I have not really followed and it would be easy to say that the cops are not telling all that they know.

What seems to be missing is means of travel and money. If the worker was suposed to drive them away and did not, then the pair would have been traveling on foot.
Have their been reports of cars getting stolen?
Any reports of home invasions resulting in cars, cash and guns getting taken?
Any reports of missing persons believed to have been forced to drive the pair?

Without situations like these then I predict the pair are still within 10 miles of the prison.

In reply to KyAllroad:

Upstate NY to Mexico? Without being seen? Or stealing a car? That would take some doing. Hell, just getting across the multitude of rivers between here and there on foot would be difficult to do without being noticed.

Granted, I'd assume they had a plan before they broke out. Transportation would be key. If they had some sort of "clean" vehicle ready to go, enough funds in place to pay the way and could change their appearance enough so make casual detection difficult, then yes - they could be damn near anywhere by now.

I'd guess canoodia before mexico. It's right there.

I find it alarming that there are only two layers of metal between those prison cells and freedom.

914Driver wrote: Mrs. 914's cousin just retired as a Corrections Officer, he says prisoner rights groups fought for and won things like when doing bed checks at night, guards cannot shine a light in the prisoner's face to confirm it's not just a stack of pillows. It's cruel and inhumane or something.

Shining a flashlight in a sleeping person's face does seem unnecessary and cruel (especially now with modern LED daymakers)...what kind of cartoon character needs to go that far to tell a stack of pillows from a human?

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: I'd guess canoodia before mexico. It's right there.

my guess as well. Did they take French or Spanish lessons?

They have eluded their captors this long, I am beginning to cheer for the convicts!

I love how the news media keeps indicating how the dogs have found food wrappers. LOL!

I've seen drug dogs trigger on the same.

My thinking for Mexico over Canada has to do with the relative rule of law in the respective countries. Canada is very well governed with strong ties and extradition procedures to the U.S.

Our cousins to the south on the other hand.......

If I were in their shoes, I'd go for Mexico. It'll be a lot harder to stay hidden in Canada or travel from there to somewhere else unnoticed. Also the fact that it's close means more police attention will be focused there, so I'd let it be a convenient distraction rather than walking right into the police attention.

I'd head South and then try to take a boat around the US/Mexico border. Less police attention than any kind of land crossing and way easier than an illegal land crossing especially.

Supposedly, that woman was supposed to drive them seven hours away. I'm willing to bet that if they were cunning enough to plan it up to now, they had a backup plan if she flaked out. I bet they are LONG gone.

I do agree that the police probably know more than they're letting on. At first, I wondered if they were looking close to the prison just to throw off the convicts. But last I heard it was a force of 800 in the area, so maybe they do think they're still around.

I predict they'll never be found.

-Rob

They headed North, but not to hide out in Canada. They took a water route North to the St. Lawrence Seaway, where they jumped on a freighter headed for Eastern Europe. They are in a country where people don't ask too many questions and you can make money if you are willing to break some rules.

GameboyRMH wrote: I find it alarming that there are only two layers of metal between those prison cells and freedom.

914Driver wrote: Mrs. 914's cousin just retired as a Corrections Officer, he says prisoner rights groups fought for and won things like when doing bed checks at night, guards cannot shine a light in the prisoner's face to confirm it's not just a stack of pillows. It's cruel and inhumane or something.

Shining a flashlight in a sleeping person's face does seem unnecessary and cruel (especially now with modern LED daymakers)...what kind of cartoon character needs to go that far to tell a stack of pillows from a human?

The answer...infrared sensor

Pre 9-11 we used to go to Canada on dirt roads, no border patrol or gates. I imagine those roads are still there.

914Driver wrote: Pre 9-11 we used to go to Canada on dirt roads, no border patrol or gates. I imagine those roads are still there.

The US/Canada border is much more heavily patrolled now...there are even lanes cut through the forest for guys on quads/snowmobiles to patrol back and forth on. There's some little town that sits on both sides of the border that's become an Orwellian nightmare since 9/11.

Edit: Check this out:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-vermont-border-communities-divided-by-post-9-11-security-1.1103781

In reply to GameboyRMH:

Isn't there a library or something that lies on both sides? I remember seeing a TV show about it. If you entered in one side, you had to make sure you exited on the same side.

Haha yep, I saw the same show.

not hard to get anywhere in U.S. without ID.

Buses, for example don't check for ID's neither do taxi cabs. Just pay and go. Take a taxi 20 miles away, steal a bicycle, ride one day (100 miles), dump the bike, hop on a bus. Boom. Mexico.

I'm just waiting for them to show up in Daytona before I post. Because they ALL come to Daytona.

I have long joked that if they went up to criminals and said, "Hey, scumbag, you just [blank], what are you going to do next?" then they'd all say, "I'm goin’ to Daytona!" (Remember those Disney ads that used to follow the Superbowl?)

Margie

"Black flies, Mosquitoes and Punkies: a cosmopolitan police force, detailed by divine providence to guard the great hunting park of the republic from the incursions of cockney poachers and murders of deer in summer. Long may they wave."

north woods Walton club toast, 1858

This is relevant and made me laugh.

https://youtu.be/HawGrbcJYUA

spitfirebill wrote:

GameboyRMH wrote: I find it alarming that there are only two layers of metal between those prison cells and freedom.

914Driver wrote: Mrs. 914's cousin just retired as a Corrections Officer, he says prisoner rights groups fought for and won things like when doing bed checks at night, guards cannot shine a light in the prisoner's face to confirm it's not just a stack of pillows. It's cruel and inhumane or something.

Shining a flashlight in a sleeping person's face does seem unnecessary and cruel (especially now with modern LED daymakers)...what kind of cartoon character needs to go that far to tell a stack of pillows from a human?

The answer...infrared sensor

State or Federal Congressional response,

"We will not allow the waste of tax payer funds for the luxury of these systems to justify the lax attitude of correctional facility staff, when all they need is a flashlight and to shine it on the prisoners."

bentwrench wrote: They have eluded their captors this long, I am beginning to cheer for the convicts!

The sad thing is, there are people out there who are dumb enough to actually do this...This is not the kind of person to celebritize for escaping a max security prison and evading the Police.