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unevolved
unevolved New Reader
12/2/09 10:11 p.m.

http://www.facebook.com/#/group.php?gid=188908692954&ref=nf

This may be one of the best trolls I've ever seen. I had no idea it was so easy to troll facebook.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 Dork
12/2/09 10:30 p.m.

he can say it'll be moved to the 8th, but do you honestly think anyone would celebrate it then? hahahaha

NYG95GA
NYG95GA SuperDork
12/2/09 10:43 p.m.

This is the ridiculous kind of stuff that makes urban legends seem real to people disassociated with reality.

If you hear someone passing along this priceless gem as any more than a dumb joke, you would be doing mankind a favor by choking them to death.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado Dork
12/2/09 11:06 p.m.

http://eclectech.co.uk/mindcontrol.php

captainzib
captainzib Reader
12/2/09 11:10 p.m.

I thought dec 25th wasn't the real christmas anyway. Something about how it was a day that coincided with some pagan holiday so they celebrated Christmas then to get more converts. I dunno, I'm too lazy to google this, but I recall hearing something about this ages ago. I believe it's why certain whole cultures don't celebrate Christmas on the 25th.

Salanis
Salanis SuperDork
12/2/09 11:52 p.m.
captainzib wrote: I thought dec 25th wasn't the real christmas anyway. Something about how it was a day that coincided with some pagan holiday so they celebrated Christmas then to get more converts. I dunno, I'm too lazy to google this, but I recall hearing something about this ages ago. I believe it's why certain whole cultures don't celebrate Christmas on the 25th.

Pretty much. I thought I heard that the actual tax time in which Jesus would have born was nowhere near December. I think "Christmas" was just a name tagged onto a particular holiday. A mid-winter's festival of lights is actually common to many native belief systems.

I believe I did hear that the Christian marking of the resurrection actually fell on almost the same day as the Pagan festival of Easter, the two got blended with pretty much no subjugation of any of the Pagan traditions. It not only kept all the fertility symbols, it kept the name.

Morbid
Morbid New Reader
12/3/09 1:18 a.m.
captainzib wrote: I thought dec 25th wasn't the real christmas anyway. Something about how it was a day that coincided with some pagan holiday so they celebrated Christmas then to get more converts. I dunno, I'm too lazy to google this, but I recall hearing something about this ages ago. I believe it's why certain whole cultures don't celebrate Christmas on the 25th.

This is actually pretty accurate. I can't remember when the birth of Jesus is actually thought to have taken place, but Catholic Priests placed Christmas on the 25th because the Pagan holiday of Yule (Winter Solstice) is on the 21st. This got all of the 'heathens' out of the way for the Catholics' celebrations. The Pagan holiday of Yule is actually the celebration of the rebirth of the sun.

(Way more information that you wanted, right )

As far as the Obama moving Christmas this, I have no comment that has not already been made (or that wouldn't go on forever), so I will leave it at that.

Tim Baxter
Tim Baxter Online Editor
12/3/09 7:41 a.m.

God bless those pagans.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
12/3/09 7:56 a.m.

Let Obama move Christmas into the South, and head down there to celebrate, I would guess all our problems would be solved very quickly.

Gimp
Gimp Dork
12/3/09 8:09 a.m.
aussiesmg wrote: Let Obama move Christmas into the South, and head down there to celebrate, I would guess all our problems would be solved very quickly.

wow

maroon92
maroon92 SuperDork
12/3/09 8:10 a.m.

In Spain they celebrate "Christ's Birthday", as well as El Dia de los Tres Reyes (day of the three kings), which everyone else knows as Christmas.

joey48442
joey48442 SuperDork
12/3/09 8:18 a.m.
aussiesmg wrote: Let Obama move Christmas into the South, and head down there to celebrate, I would guess all our problems would be solved very quickly.

What do you mean? They mean move the date, I think.

Joey

mtn
mtn SuperDork
12/3/09 8:19 a.m.
Morbid wrote:
captainzib wrote: I thought dec 25th wasn't the real christmas anyway. Something about how it was a day that coincided with some pagan holiday so they celebrated Christmas then to get more converts. I dunno, I'm too lazy to google this, but I recall hearing something about this ages ago. I believe it's why certain whole cultures don't celebrate Christmas on the 25th.
This is actually pretty accurate. I can't remember when the birth of Jesus is actually thought to have taken place, but Catholic Priests placed Christmas on the 25th because the Pagan holiday of Yule (Winter Solstice) is on the 21st. This got all of the 'heathens' out of the way for the Catholics' celebrations. The Pagan holiday of Yule is actually the celebration of the rebirth of the sun.

I think it is around March.

John Brown
John Brown SuperDork
12/3/09 8:56 a.m.

No Joel, we need to move the place of Christmas on the 8th.

(google Christmas, Mi)

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
12/3/09 9:04 a.m.

New religions always steal holidays from other established religions. If someone is already attending a party... they aren't going to change plans and come to your party until yours is bigger.

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
12/3/09 10:06 a.m.

So what does Glenn Beck think about this...

Appleseed
Appleseed Dork
12/3/09 9:24 p.m.

Glenn Beck can think?

unevolved
unevolved New Reader
12/3/09 11:25 p.m.
captainzib wrote: I thought dec 25th wasn't the real christmas anyway. Something about how it was a day that coincided with some pagan holiday so they celebrated Christmas then to get more converts. I dunno, I'm too lazy to google this, but I recall hearing something about this ages ago. I believe it's why certain whole cultures don't celebrate Christmas on the 25th.

Kind of on the subject, I attended a really interesting lecture tonight on astronomy and Christmas/Christianity tonight, and the retrograde motion of Jupiter (which caused the star to appear to "stop") occured on Dec 25 of 2 or 3 AD, I can't remember which. Keep in mind Jesus was already a toddler when the Magi showed up.

There were a lot of other amazing connections there. The website is http://bethlehemstar.net/ and I recommend it.

Per Schroeder
Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director
12/4/09 9:48 a.m.

I thought Easter was the day that the little baby Jesus hopped out of his cave and if he saw his shadow, that meant six more weeks of winter.

Keith
Keith SuperDork
12/4/09 9:49 a.m.

Apparently FDR actually DID move Thanksgiving. Why? To make the "holiday shopping season" longer. So there's precedence...

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
12/4/09 9:51 a.m.
Per Schroeder wrote: I thought Easter was the day that the little baby Jesus hopped out of his cave and if he saw his shadow, that meant six more weeks of winter.

Easter is when Basic Jesus became Zombie Jesus.

Per Schroeder
Per Schroeder Technical Editor/Advertising Director
12/4/09 9:58 a.m.

Jesus is Zach? that explains a lot.

Toyman01
Toyman01 HalfDork
12/4/09 4:44 p.m.

Always love listening to evangelical atheists, they're just as fun to listen to as the radical Christians.

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 Dork
12/4/09 5:15 p.m.

Didn't the whole Claus thing start from the German/Austrian dude who went around filling kids shoes with various candies and trinkets on the 6th or 7th of December? This is also where we got Santa Claus, gift giving, etc? Or are all the wise tales my grandparents used to tell me getting jumbled up into one thing?

And who cares, Christmas is an established holiday, it's freakin awesome, I get a paid day off of work, get an early day the day before, get to eat some awesome food, spend some time with the family, watch some college football, work on projects, do some activities, etc.

ignorant
ignorant SuperDork
12/4/09 5:17 p.m.

obama is a left wing socialist nazi...

(which if you know anything about nazi's is impossible. Cause Nazi's are fascists which are an extension of the right wing of the political spectrum and socialists are the left wing. It is impossible to be both...)

idiots..............

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