People here in Pittsburgh start crying "it's hot!" when the temp gets over 70. When it's over 80, it's a crisis. After growing up in the south, anything under 90 is enjoyable to me.
Id take the 99 summers to not endure the cold grey winters we have here.
A few years ago Oklahoma set the record for highest average temp over the course of a year.
The next few months it will be humid and in the low 80s as the sun comes up at 6am. Then have heat indexes well north of 100.
Slippery (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to Gary :
I have. I have been to California and driven to Vegas multiple times in the middle of the summer ...
It's not the same, NOAA agrees:
That chart mimics my experience after a spring & summer in Yuma. Above 110*F in the desert is where you hit the same level of suffering as 100*F with high humidity in the SE.
einy (Forum Supporter) said:I’ll stop complaining about upper 80’s and drippy himidity in the Cincinnati area after seeing what you Floridians are dealing with, but I still won’t like it.
I try not to complain too much- I dislike snow much much more.
Scotty Con Queso said:People here in Pittsburgh start crying "it's hot!" when the temp gets over 70. When it's over 80, it's a crisis. After growing up in the south, anything under 90 is enjoyable to me.
Id take the 99 summers to not endure the cold grey winters we have here.
I miss the 105 with 0% humidity of Northern California so much now that I'm back in PA with 75 degree days and 250% humidity.
It's not even that it's hot, it's that the air is so thick and sticky that you can't cool off
mr2s2000elise said:Would love to cut down a oak tree on my property. However, County won't allow it. It is $100,000 fine to cut it down.
So due to property values, developers buy property, cut down oak trees, pay the $100k fine, and build house, and make it 10x over.
I wish I could afford to cut down the oak tree. Worst thing in my life right now
If developers are making that much the property is being sold way under value.
It was in the 90's here back in February/March. Right now we are in an inversion. Cold air coming off Monterey Bay. For the record we've had temps as high as 115 here. Thankfully we only get a couple dozen days that hover around 100. Usually it cools off by 10pm. I can count on one hand the times we've had to run the AC overnight.
Yes everything is expensive here. Yes the politics are goofy. No I won't ever live farther East than Tahoe ever again.
Stampie (FS) said:I've walked down the strip in Vegas in July rehydrating from my 12 pack of beer. Not the same. Also for cold I've been in Steamboat Springs, Colorado in Feb and thought it was great. Humid weather to either extreme is way different.
Absolutely true. Wet cold is so, so gross.
In reply to CAinCA :
My neighbors A/C kicks on at 70 degrees and stays on down to 65 while they huddle inside.
Me it's comfortably cool until the outside temps get well over mid 80's ( inside is in the low 70's at that point. ) due to naturally cool breezes off the lake, Trees overhead providing shade, and the super insulation I used combined with Low/High windows.
Our electric bill goes up about $30 a month in July and August and if my wife wasn't diabetic and very sensitive would only go up by $10.
Learn to eat E36 M3.
Embrace the pain.
Take more showers.
In reply to RevRico :
If you think the humidity in Western PA is bad, you should spend a summer in the southeast. After coming from Austin and Charlotte, Id say Pittsburgh has almost no humidity, but it's probably because the temp is so much lower here.
Regarding the endless grey skies from November though March... I was losing my mind my first winter here. 30 days and no sunshine. I asked my wife how she was managing and she said she hadn't even noticed. All in what you're used to, I reckon.
secretariata (Forum Supporter) said:Slippery (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to Gary :
I have. I have been to California and driven to Vegas multiple times in the middle of the summer ...
It's not the same, NOAA agrees:
That chart mimics my experience after a spring & summer in Yuma. Above 110*F in the desert is where you hit the same level of suffering as 100*F with high humidity in the SE.
If you look at wet bulb temp, humidity makes a big difference in health impact and comfort:
Nice and cool 76F today, hate it when it gets above 80. Humidity is up and down, makes a difference.
Give me a day in mid Feb. sunny with no wind, temp mid 20,s . Middle of a frozen lake. Great
jharry3 said:mr2s2000elise said:Would love to cut down a oak tree on my property. However, County won't allow it. It is $100,000 fine to cut it down.
So due to property values, developers buy property, cut down oak trees, pay the $100k fine, and build house, and make it 10x over.
I wish I could afford to cut down the oak tree. Worst thing in my life right now
If developers are making that much the property is being sold way under value.
Developers are lot splitting . Building 3 houses where one house and a pool used to be.
owners are dying off left and right. Their kids in Boston and Seattle don't want to deal with estate and selling off as fast as possible.
money pouring in from HK and China. They don't call it the Chinese Beverly Hills around here for nothing
Next door sold for $1.3m
they removed house. Lot split it 3 ways. Each house will be sold for $1.6m
or on next street, they tear down, build massive square footage, sold it for $4.1M
one buyer is the current dodger manager. He paid $2.7 for one of these new builds
wearymicrobe said:mr2s2000elise said:Would love to cut down a oak tree on my property. However, County won't allow it. It is $100,000 fine to cut it down.
So due to property values, developers buy property, cut down oak trees, pay the $100k fine, and build house, and make it 10x over.
I wish I could afford to cut down the oak tree. Worst thing in my life right now
That really cannot be a thing. Even California is not that crazy unless it is an endangered species like a Torrey Pines. Shove some copper nails in the base of the tree and watch it die.
EDIT.
i stand corrected California is that stupid apparently and you need a permit in some citys to cut branchs thicker then 1 inch. 373,000 fine for a homeowner who was ordered by a city to clear trees around a powerline then sued them for no permit.
I work with a lot of City folks and City Projects. This checks out. #defundpermitdepartment
mr2s2000elise said:jharry3 said:mr2s2000elise said:Would love to cut down a oak tree on my property. However, County won't allow it. It is $100,000 fine to cut it down.
So due to property values, developers buy property, cut down oak trees, pay the $100k fine, and build house, and make it 10x over.
I wish I could afford to cut down the oak tree. Worst thing in my life right now
If developers are making that much the property is being sold way under value.
Developers are lot splitting . Building 3 houses where one house and a pool used to be.
owners are dying off left and right. Their kids in Boston and Seattle don't want to deal with estate and selling off as fast as possible.
money pouring in from HK and China. They don't call it the Chinese Beverly Hills around here for nothing
Next door sold for $1.3m
they removed house. Lot split it 3 ways. Each house will be sold for $1.6m
or on next street, they tear down, build massive square footage, sold it for $4.1M
one buyer is the current dodger manager. He paid $2.7 for one of these new builds
That's what's going on around here too. Parents dying off and children cash out. Nice Two story home in good shape will be torn down and a maximum sized hose built on the same lot. Price is now at least a million higher than what it originally sold for. Half for the bigger house, half for profit.
20 acres on the lake with one house. ( and the caretakers cottage ) will be turned into as many estates as the developer can bribe the city council to allow. For sale for millions each.
You all need some real heat. This happened early last week. No wonder I got a bit of a case of heat stroke.
In reply to dean1484 :
So...which one of those numbers is the actual temperature? That looks like a Weather Channel choose your own adventure.
In reply to Appleseed :
Top left was the forecast high top right the low temp. In the middle is the current temp and bottom number the "feels like" temp.
I went outside this morning. I didn't like it.
My in-laws moved to Dunnellon,FL about a year and a half ago. They are trying to convince me that New England is hotter than FL in the summer. Not a chance!! Maybe, a day here and there, but not on the whole. There is no way they're going to convince me that FL is cooler than New England. They must have some good drugs down there though.
While out in the backyard, I cut a small tree down and chopped it up last Sunday. It was about 90 degrees and humid. That was a poor choice. I ended up with a fever and felt like collapsing out in the yard. I was out of commission for the rest of the day. The sun can be a real jerk sometimes.
I remember working in Louisiana on the Deepwater Horizon clean up effort. We had days where the regs for outdoor work were 20 mins work/40 mins shaded rest because of the heat index. I loved working out there but I do not miss humidy so bad that my car's windshield fogged up.
You know summer has arrived in Florida when the overnight low temperature starts with an 8.
2:50 PM CST, OKC, heat index is currently 107°.
This is typical or will get even higher for the next couple of months.
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