Physics is awesome!

Apparently the latest theory to show how quantum mechanics and relativity can play nice is that not only did our universe's "big bang" start as a black hole in a different universe, but that every black hole has a new universe "in it".

Yeah, digest that one for a few minutes. Mind blown yet?

Cool stuff!

Wasn't that already covered on Futurama?

My brain just doesn't twist that way.

String theory and the multi-verse are cool ideas.

Eh, physics is just mathematics with no imagination.

Osterkraut wrote: Eh, physics is just mathematics with no imagination.

I'm thinking that's backwards.

String theory tied my brain in knots and still does, trying to wrap around the possibilities of 'all the way around in a straight line'. Also, assuming string theory is fo' real: is there any possible way to even come close to predicting where you might pop out?

Appleseed wrote: String theory and the multi-verse are cool ideas.

Yes they are. String theory is a little hard to wrap your mind around, but the general thought of the multi-verse is mind blowing. String theory just throws even more crazy, hard to image things like 10 spacial dimension into the mix and universe expansions/explosions/creations that happen as often as someone farts.

And people say drugs are bad.......

Curmudgeon wrote:

Osterkraut wrote: Eh, physics is just mathematics with no imagination.

I'm thinking that's backwards. String theory tied my brain in knots and still does, trying to wrap around the possibilities of 'all the way around in a straight line'. Also, assuming string theory is fo' real: is there any possible way to even come close to predicting where you might pop out?

No way.

Javelin wrote: Apparently the latest theory to show how quantum mechanics and relativity can play nice is that not only did our universe's "big bang" start as a black hole in a different universe, but that *every* black hole has a new universe "in it". Yeah, digest that one for a few minutes. Mind blown yet? Cool stuff!

Well it would make sense...

Black holes envelop everything around them. The gravity at work is so massive not even light can escape, SO, one could imagine how all that matter and debris has to go SOMEWHERE. Why not into another universe? Makes sense if you think about it.

Osterkraut wrote: No way.

So mathematics is applied physics? Riiiight. 'Purity' ain't everything. Although it can raise the price of a hooker...

Black holes are thought to be able to punch through space/time and in effect it's theoretically possible for them to become 'shortcuts' as in you jump into this end and you come out the other end a vast distance away, although to you it would be as if it took an instant. (Not sure I'd want to be the first guy to jump into one just to see where it came out.) As I understand it, they are thought to be part of what bends the 'strings' of space/time till they 'touch' via their super strong gravity.

There's another, older, theory of black holes which says they never end. If you were to jump into one you would fall forever. There's another good reason not to go jumping into black holes.

Do they contain whole universes? I suppose it's possible, just like the old stoner joke about your thumbnail containing millions of itsy bitsy solar systems.

I never saw Macguiver cipher his way out of a jam. Physics FTW.

My mind is still blown that non-Euclidean geometry exists.

Too bad engineers aren't part of the equation. We know just enough chemistry, physics, and math to be dangerous. Teach us a little psychology and sociology, and we become sales people. you know, pumps & seals & stuff.

Curmudgeon wrote:

Osterkraut wrote: No way.

So mathematics is applied physics? Riiiight. 'Purity' ain't everything. Although it can raise the price of a hooker... Black holes are thought to be able to punch through space/time and in effect it's theoretically possible for them to become 'shortcuts' as in you jump into this end and you come out the other end a vast distance away, although to you it would be as if it took an instant. (Not sure I'd want to be the first guy to jump into one just to see where it came out.) As I understand it, they are thought to be part of what bends the 'strings' of space/time till they 'touch' via their super strong gravity. There's another, older, theory of black holes which says they never end. If you were to jump into one you would fall forever. There's another good reason not to go jumping into black holes. Do they contain whole universes? I suppose it's possible, just like the old stoner joke about your thumbnail containing millions of itsy bitsy solar systems.

We read from left to right in English. Physics is just applied mathematics. All this wonder you're gawking over is the result of math interacting with the universe.

Interesting stuff that can make the universe seem infinite but really be finite allowing for a multiverse to be possible without the craziness of overlapping universes dodecahedron universe

Javelin wrote: but that *every* black hole has a new universe "in it". Yeah, digest that one for a few minutes. Mind blown yet?

Sounds a lot like a sci-fi short I read in David Brin's book Otherness. It was about scientist on a ship in deep space trying to create a small singularity for research purposes. In the story they succeed, but realize that there's a universe inside it.

The story ends with:

He said, "Oh my god!"....and neither of them could tell which way he meant it.

I've been watching Dr. Who for 30 years this is not that mind blowing.

Isaac Azimov The Last Question

My favorite entry.

This guys been to the Underverse.

Osterkraut wrote: We read from left to right in English. Physics is just applied mathematics. All this wonder you're gawking over is the result of math interacting with the universe.

Negatory there, good buddy. Math is how we humans struggle to decipher and explain the fascinating things we observe that are basically physics tootling right along with no interference from us puny meatbags.

At some point, I think a bunch of physicists just got together, said "OK, we're going to say something completely outlandish, but unprovable, and defend it with jibber jabber that nobody understands. We will do it with confidence, and shun anyone who dares question us."

DILYSI Dave wrote: At some point, I think a bunch of physicists just got together, said "OK, we're going to say something completely outlandish, but unprovable, and defend it with jibber jabber that nobody understands. We will do it with confidence, and shun anyone who dares question us."

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Hey, it's worked for centuries for people of a, uhhhh, less scientific frame of mind...

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