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Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/7/20 9:32 p.m.

My current desktop is about 10 years old and well overdue for replacing. I want a laptop for convenience but don't want it to be useless in a couple years or easily broken. I'm not doing anything to taxing of it I think, mostly photo editing, some web surfing and writing, and some occasional streaming. What should I buy? 

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa Dork
9/7/20 9:45 p.m.

Your needs are pretty low.  For the photo stuff, are you talking full on photoshop?  If not,  then as long as it isn't a chromebook, I think you'll be fine with just about anything out there.  

In terms of future proofing, do you want to get into anything a little more heavy? 3D printing and designing models? CAD kind of stuff?

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/7/20 9:45 p.m.

Lenovo or Asus seem to be the hot picks right now.  I avoid the bigger names like HP or Dell.  They seem to simply be platforms where they can accept big money for including bloatware and junk that you don't need.

I went Asus.  I got a Republic of Gamers.  I don't game, but I do a fair amount of 4K video editing, audio recording/mastering, etc.  It is 2 years old right now and rock solid.

At this point in the game, I would strongly consider a dual-drive unit; a large HDD and a small SSD.  On my Asus with an SSD for the system stuff, from the time I hit the power button to the login screen is 6 seconds.  Wicked fast.  I will leave it to the more knowledgeable folks on processor choices, but mine is an 8th gen core i7 that can overclock to 4.2g.  Six cores at that speed is amazing.  AMD has some great stuff with their latest Ryzen processors as well.

You don't need a ton of expensive stuff, but I would focus on a good video card and plenty of memory.  Newer Windows stuff occupies lots of memory.  Mine is 16gb with room for 16 more.  Overkill for you, but I would say 8gb is a minimum for the photo editing/streaming

Patrick (Forum Supporter)
Patrick (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/8/20 6:18 a.m.

My current one is a dell that was $289 best buy clearance, touchscreen, and it's perfect for doing basically the same stuff you need plus older games via steam.  They almost always have clearance ones sub $300 with solid features 

My current Lenovo has been dependable. It works perfectly for general duties, ecu tuning and internet surfing. It bogs down pretty good with 3d rendering and video editing. I ended up buying a desktop to handle the heavy loads.

Overall I'm pretty happy with it. I think it was a Staples $400 deal. 

 

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 SuperDork
9/8/20 7:17 a.m.

I had a massive amount of bloatware and factory installed trojan with my last Lenovo purchased at Best Buy.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
9/8/20 7:24 a.m.

So. Here's my unscientific way of picking a laptop. 
 

I go to slickdeals.net. Find what people say is a good deal and buy it. Worked out well so far

 

i did this with a Costco computer once. She is a pig with a breaking mouse button now. 

dean1484
dean1484 MegaDork
9/8/20 7:36 a.m.

Wally

 

What is you budget?  

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/8/20 8:09 a.m.

In reply to Mr_Asa :

I'm not looking at photoshop, mostly just taking them off my camera, maybe cropping them and putting them on a hard drive.

 

In reply to dean1484 

I hadn't really decided on a budget. It's been a while since I bought a computer and don't know what to expect.

pinchvalve (Forum Supporter)
pinchvalve (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/8/20 8:29 a.m.

Good luck finding a Chromebook, schools are facing massive shortages right now. I have one for my son, I hear it can do anything that a PC can do but I am highly skeptical.

For a basic, do-it-all Laptop it is hard to beat an Apple Macbook Air, especially if you are an iPhone user. I hear the haters, but mine has been rock-solid for many years without a single issue. I just replaced the battery for less than $50 and it took 5 minutes. The one downside is that MS Office on the Mac is like 80% of what you get on a PC.

Work forces me to use a PC, and I have a Dell Lattitude 7400. I am on my second one in 6 months, the first one lasted a few months before it refused to connect to the internet. The company replaced it because they could not diagnose the issue...scary considering I work for a Fortune 500 IT company! Other than that, Windows is just fine these days, I transitioned from a Mac pretty easily. Acer, Lenovo, HP...they all make solid products. I would get one designed for a business user to avoid all the bloatware.

My wife has a MS Surface and it is in the shop more than a Fiat, no thanks!

Check out Tigerdirect.com, my company owns it and from what I hear their prices are pretty killer. (No, I don't get anything if you shop there LOL)

 

 

Curtis73 (Forum Supporter)
Curtis73 (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
9/8/20 8:42 a.m.

My previous laptop was an HP that was about $350.  I bought it because it had all the right stuff.  At the time, I mostly surfed and shopped with modest photo/video editing.  It was so slow that I gave it to my friend who works in IT for a big company for some TLC and he was shocked at all the crap on it.  He saved my personal stuff to an external, wiped it, and did a fresh install of win10 pro and it was so much better.  I used it about two years and then donated it to the theater where I use it as a library of sound effects, music, and as a client for the lighting console.

Current Republic of Gamers laptop was $1400 retail which I got as an open box at Best Buy for $1100.  It is stuffed with everything that was best-of-the-best in 2018.

I'm thinking for under $500 you should easily be able to get the processor/memory/SSD you will need, but it has been two years since I really shopped much for laptops.

RossD
RossD MegaDork
9/8/20 8:44 a.m.

My worklap top is a Lenovo X1 Carbon. Its lightyears ahead of our 6 year old Sony laptop at home.

xxsportscar
xxsportscar New Reader
9/8/20 8:45 a.m.

You probably need to give some more info on budget and wants to get the best suggestion.

I'm personally rocking a 10 year old MSI laptop with a first gen i5 and have solidworks 2020 running as we speak.  Over the years I added a ssd and some extra ram but if your use is light you can get away with something pretty cheap.  For replacement I recently started looking at the Dell latitude 74xx stuff on eBay as it seems like good hardware for the price, that's said I'm curious to hear the suggestions of more tech savvy members.

RevRico
RevRico PowerDork
9/8/20 8:50 a.m.

I'm going to buck the trend a little bit, and tell you that laptops under $500 just aren't worth it. I bought one in a pinch when my last gaming laptop died and I regret it every single time I have to use it.

Entry level gaming laptops though, in the $500-700 range, may seem like overkill, but will actually have the grunt to be a bit more future proof should you decide you want to do more than crop some photos and browse the web.

Lenovo, asus, NOT Dell or HP. Avoid Toshiba hard drives.

Keep in mind, SSDs will die, with no warning or chance of recovery. 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
9/8/20 8:53 a.m.

We bought this one and absolutely love it. Boot time is less than 5 seconds. its quick, does everything we need and even handles our horrific DSL well. 

John Welsh (Moderate Supporter)
John Welsh (Moderate Supporter) Mod Squad
9/8/20 8:58 a.m.

A couple of months ago I bought a updated laptop for running my business.  My previous unit was never high spec and at 5 yrs of service was getting glichy and bogged down.  

I had a few requirements/goals:

  • I wanted a business machine.  These tend to be built more stout with a better case.  I do take my machine on the road.  This leads me to refurb'ed business machines.  I previously had a Lenovo and loved it so I wanted another.  
  • Processor: 
    • My usage is pretty simple mostly just needing Office Type programs (Word, Excel, etc) and general web surfing.  
    • I knew for past experience that I wanted Intel brand
      • i3 processor = entry
      • i5 = middle of the road (and more than adequate for my needs)
      • i7 = wiz bang or gaming
  • RAM: 
    • 8gb is the new minimum.  Many will come with just 4gb and you can upgrade.  Try to research if the unit has 2 slots for RAM.  If it does have 2 slots, that is the easy way to upgrade the RAM.  Putting in RAM is plug and play and is very easy.  A #0 screwdriver is all that is needed.  Here is a sample video of increasing the RAm on my Lenovo.
  • Hard Drive
    • I wanted a SSD (solid state drive) since they are quicker than a HDD (hard drive disk) but the SSD's tend to be smaller.  Here is a comparison article.  If you want a big hard drive then you will be forced in HDD
  • Screen size
    • 14" or 15".  The simple answer here is that 15"ers typically have a numeric key pad on the right of the keyboard.  The 14"ers do not.  I wanted 14" as my max size because even though just one inch, the 15"ers become cumbersome for travel or actually using on your lap.  At 15" I find they are best used if always used at a desk.  If you are going to only use it at a desk there are even 17" units.  They offer big screens  but lack portability.  

 

For me, and my wants I bought:

  • Lenovo T460 (business machine) refurb'ed, 14" screen, Bought from MicroCenter fro $429
  • Intel i5 Processor
  • SSD of 256gb
  • 8gb or RAM but made with 2 slots.  this means that it had 4gb in one slot and 4gb in the other slot.  I took out one of the 4gb and replaced it with the 8gb ram card I had in my old laptop.  This gives me 4gb plus 8gb for a total of 12gb.  
John Welsh (Moderate Supporter)
John Welsh (Moderate Supporter) Mod Squad
9/8/20 9:04 a.m.
bobzilla said:

We bought this one and absolutely love it. Boot time is less than 5 seconds. its quick, does everything we need and even handles our horrific DSL well. 

Just to tie Bob's purchase to what I bought and what I wrote.  The headline of Bob's computer reads:

ASUS VivoBook 15 Thin and Light Laptop, 15.6” Full HD, AMD Quad Core R5-3500U CPU, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 256GB PCIe SSD, AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics, Windows 10 Home,

  • Asus is the manufacturer
  • 15.6" so note that it does have a dedicated number key pad
  • ADM is the processor manufacturer.  I hear their new stuff is really good.  I was buying refurb'er (older) so I wanted Intel brand.
  • 8gb of RAM
  • 256gb of SSD hard drive
02Pilot
02Pilot UltraDork
9/8/20 9:13 a.m.

As others have noted, without specifics of requirements and budget it's hard to say what will or will not work for you, but I will say that if your needs are met by a Chromebook you will need less hardware capability than you would for Windows, and it will very likely be cheaper. I bought an Acer 15" Chromebook with an i3 processor last year around Black Friday for $200 or so, and it can do pretty much everything you listed, though photo editing would be fairly limited.

John Welsh (Moderate Supporter)
John Welsh (Moderate Supporter) Mod Squad
9/8/20 9:18 a.m.

I went to MicroCenter's website and they did not have similar to what I bought available at this time.  

Via Pinchy's Tiger Direct, I did find what I bought for $412 (I paid $429)

spacecadet (Forum Supporter)
spacecadet (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
9/8/20 9:40 a.m.

Something powered by Intel will probably get you by.

But AMD's Ryzen processors are really kicking ass in almost every pricepoint.

Bob's new computer seems like a great fit for what you need.

If you're gonna buy one thing, i would say spend a bit more and get a bit bigger laptop with better cooling..

but if you're looking for a laptop to pair with a desktop.. a thin and light like what Bob bought is a great plan

The past 3 years have brought some amazing new stuff to the table for computers, and the computer Bob bought is one of the best ways to take advantage of the new Ryzen CPU's in a laptop.. without spending a bunch of money.

 



 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
9/8/20 9:42 a.m.

In reply to spacecadet (Forum Supporter) :

we went from a 10yo Dell e6520 to this. It's like the difference between my 78 C10 and a 2020 Silverado. 

spacecadet (Forum Supporter)
spacecadet (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
9/8/20 9:45 a.m.

In reply to bobzilla :

yeah, it's first gen Zen from AMD, their laptop CPU's lag a generation behind the desktop ones.. but even still.. it's a big jump up.

the new 4000 series laptop processors are even better.. but are damn near impossible to get right now.. and are a lot mroe expensive than what you bought.. like basically double the price..

spacecadet (Forum Supporter)
spacecadet (Forum Supporter) SuperDork
9/8/20 9:51 a.m.

This ASUS ROG Gaming laptop leverages the newest generation of AMD laptop CPU's

working with 8 cores instead of 4, and a dedicated graphics card.

but it's $1k... so you get what you pay for..

8GB of ram is a practical bare minimum these days..

 

 

mikeatrpi
mikeatrpi HalfDork
9/8/20 10:15 a.m.

I sent you some email about used business laptops.

 

Separately, I am putting together an AMD Ryzen based desktop and I couldn't be more excited... https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8HWC3t

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
9/8/20 10:30 a.m.

My company issued laptop is a Dell Latitude ES5450, it seems pretty rock solid.  I think this particular model is discontinued, but refurbished ones are still available online from several sources for around $400.

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