Proper Hooning?????

In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac:

As do I. I've been pulled over every time I tried to drive a car with no hood; I doubt they'd have any better luck.

That said, the kid down the street who took the undamaged bumper off his A3 Golf so he could drill holes in it and zip tie it back on look like a tool to me. I've zip tied a car together, I've held a license plate on with duct tape. Ghetto, half-assed E36 M3 is fine if it's done out of necessity, but as a deliberate look it makes no sense.

MG Bryan wrote: In reply to 92CelicaHalfTrac: As do I. I've been pulled over every time I tried to drive a car with no hood; I doubt they'd have any better luck. That said, the kid down the street who took the undamaged bumper off his A3 Golf so he could drill holes in it and zip tie it back on look like a tool to me. I've zip tied a car together, I've held a license plate on with duct tape. Ghetto, half-assed E36 M3 is fine if it's done out of necessity, but as a deliberate look it makes no sense.

Well.... that's you know...

BECAUSE VW!

My bumper is zip tied back together. For that matter, it's zip-tied onto the car.

But that's because of a big old crack in it from a decade or two past that was never fixed or something.

MG Bryan wrote: ... but as a deliberate look it makes no sense.

Which part of driving a whole course in the slowest, most inefficient way possible in order to collect "style" points makes sense?

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:

MG Bryan wrote: ... but as a deliberate look it makes no sense.

Which part of driving a whole course in the slowest, most inefficient way possible in order to collect "style" points makes sense?

It doesn't. I don't like drifting, but that wasn't really my point. My point was that while it's understandable for a drift car to be cobbled together, there's no reason to emulate that deliberately in your street car.

There's a Miata in the fleet at my house that has no finish panel and uses some zip ties to hold it together where the holes no longer line up and proper fasteners won't fit. It got hit in Miami and it's not worth fixing correctly.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:

MG Bryan wrote: ... but as a deliberate look it makes no sense.

Which part of driving a whole course in the slowest, most inefficient way possible in order to collect "style" points makes sense?

Because it is fun?

^ THIS

I am LMAO right now thanks to this thread and I have to say, A2 VW's and zip ties is a marrage! (personal experience)

93EXCivic wrote: Because it is fun?

I have to say I find drifting fundamentally silly as a sport, but I very much see the entertainment factor.

Personally, I think drifting is probably more entertaining to watch then most forms or car racing. Why? Because you can SEE what the drivers are doing. No one really can tell what an F1 driver is going through, a drifter, it's pretty obvious.

Although I think a drift race series would be absurd (just don't drift, you win), creating a series with low traction, high slip angle tires would be very fun to watch (you know, basically the 60's). Sort of a combination of the racing of road racing and the visual appeal of drifting (maybe not so much smoke though).

NickF40 wrote: ^ THIS I am LMAO right now thanks to this thread and I have to say, A2 VW's and zip ties is a marrage! (personal experience)

Oh look, idiots not wearing helmets.

DaveEstey wrote: Oh look, idiots not wearing helmets.

I didn't notice that because I was busy laughing at the stickers all over the part of the window that you would use to see where you were going if you were actually trying to go anywhere.

I don't think those guys need helmets lol, Team Burst's drivers are some of the best, crazy japanese.

Drifters rarely look out of the windshield...

racing guys will never get along with drifters, just the way it is

NickF40 wrote: I don't think those guys need helmets lol, Team Burst's drivers are some of the best, crazy japanese. Drifters rarely look out of the windshield...

Based on how beat to E36 M3 drift cars are, they need helmets. Plus the car clearly has a cage..

See that cage? Yeah, they need helmets.

BTW, did nobody pay attention to my post explaining exactly what these cars are? Nobody drives them on the street except complete toolbags who also likely can't afford the insurance that said POS drift car is costing them.

It's always nice to have a nice looking car, but unless you are either extremely good or extremely lucky, repairing bodywork on a weekly basis gets old and expensive very quickly. Pros have the advantage of a crew and sponsors, so they don't count.

it wasn't a serious run they were on....but whatever, you guys are missing the point. My buddy has a 240 and drifts, it doesn't cost him a fortune, it's slightly beat up, front bumper is stitched together by zipties and HE DON'T CARE, he likes drifting for the fun aspect and being around your buddies who have the same interest and go out drifting. This is him at the East Coast Bash

this guy's 240, his is very nice and he daily's it and drifts it as much as possible, it ain't a piece of E36 M3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohZ4r4_aSuE

More guys not wearing helmets.

it was at a place they fool around at, it's a Harley test course

What's your point? It's ok to be stupid if you're just fooling around?

Fool around or no, you are an idiot to drive/race/drift with a cage and no helmet. That's just stupid and liable to get you killed. Human heads are pretty squishy.

Nick buddy.... helmets aren't just used to fulfill the safety rules of sanctioned events.

In reply to NickF40:

Some of us get the point and then get put off by the stuff that goes along with it. The number number of time I've hear drifting describe as a form of racing is mind boggling. The stickers on the windshield and the flat brim hats and all the "culture" that goes with it just off putting.

Sliding cars around on some empty pavement is fun. That's what we did after classes let out in high school, and I really wish drifting was nothing more than that.

DOM tubing + skull = bad news bears.

I know all that and I was joking around on my initial no helmet comment but personally I have no berkeleying clue why THEY aren't wearing a helmet, I know I would if I was running but pointing out, "oh these toolbags aren't wearing helmets" that's not the point of all this.

and that's the american side of drifting you guys are seeing with the flat brimmed hat and hellaflush fitment guys in drifting, if you look into grassroots drifting, it is totally different and whole different aspect

My club sponsored a drift group for 2 years to get them better access to the track and my experience with these guys was similar to what has been expressed by the above comments. Flat brim hats, zip-ties without reason and a propensity for doing stupid things and video taping it. Some of the guys were great and wanted to run things right but the majority were dumbasses.

We are no longer associated with them.

NickF40 wrote: Apparently the majority of you don't really follow drifting

Yup. Not my thing.

I know I sound like a dumb kid, and I could not give a berkeley what you think of me but I love drifting and all that's associated, because it's fun. I don't wear flat brims, long v necks, skinny jeans, worry about aggressive wheel fitment and hellaflush and worry about fads and trends. Like I said, that is the problem with the american drifting crowd, they made it the flat brim douchebag trend follower bandwagon jumper that your talking about. True drifting guys, like the few you mentioned are in a whole different part of the drifting world. I dress totally different and all that, hell i'm more of a redneck so to speak, so i'm different in the drifting world I guess you could say but I don't follow trends or anything. I like it because it's fun. People are too serious nowadays in racing, fun and enjoyment seem to be missing from today. The Bloodmasters guys can relate to us, GRM guys. They keep the spirit alive

I know about and understand helmets and YES those guys are extremely stupid for not wearing one and I would wear one ANY time I was drifting or racing no matter what but not everyone who drifts doesn't wear a helmet, but i'm not gonna just say "drifting is dumb, these guys aren't wearing helmets" and have that as my end all about drifting

NickF40 wrote: I know I sound like a dumb kid, and I could not give a berkeley what you think of me but I love drifting and all that's associated, because it's fun. I don't wear flat brims, long v necks, skinny jeans, worry about aggressive wheel fitment and hellaflush and worry about fads and trends. Like I said, that is the problem with the american drifting crowd, they made it the flat brim douchebag trend follower bandwagon jumper that your talking about. True drifting guys, like the few you mentioned are in a whole different part of the drifting world. I dress totally different and all that, hell i'm more of a redneck so to speak, so i'm different in the drifting world I guess you could say but I don't follow trends or anything. I like it because it's fun. People are too serious nowadays in racing, fun and enjoyment seem to be missing from today. The Bloodmasters guys can relate to us, GRM guys. They keep the spirit alive I know about and understand helmets and YES those guys are extremely stupid for not wearing one and I would wear one ANY time I was drifting or racing no matter what but not everyone who drifts doesn't wear a helmet, but i'm not gonna just say "drifting is dumb, these guys aren't wearing helmets" and have that as my end all about drifting

I know I sound like a stodgy old man, but I'm actually 20. I don't think anyone is looking down on you for having differing tastes.

Any scene is going to end up getting judged based on the loudest guy in the room. So while there's some cool stuff going on underneath it all, "berkeleying douchebags" is going to a pretty standard response to drifting until a certain type of person moves on to something else.

God Nick, stop being such a dumb kid.