as the title says, any beginner level series/rulesets that would make issue with racing a car with no title?
thinking mod class solo, something of the like. Also hoping to make some hpde's.
This car is something to learn on, I have it stripped down most of the way already, and it's really in such good condition it would be a pity to have to buy another one to race because this can't be titled. I know it won't be worth much at all as a track only, no title car when I'm ready to sell it, but the experience will make up for the lack of financial return.
What say yous?
I haven't heard of any racing sanctioning body that cares about titles.
Only events that take place on public roads will care about any kind of paperwork on the car. I do an offroad TSD rally where part of the driving is on the streets and the trucks have to be 100% street legal.
Other things, people have driven cars to the event with no license plates on them and nobody batted an eye.
whenry
HalfDork
1/1/13 3:11 p.m.
I have never worried about having title or registration on any race car; if you are driving it on the street, I would be far more concerned with insurance since in Tn, you can lose your license if caught driving with no insurance.
GameboyRMH wrote:
Only events that take place on public roads will care about any kind of paperwork on the car. I do an offroad TSD rally where part of the driving is on the streets and the trucks have to be 100% street legal.
Other things, people have driven cars to the event with no license plates on them and nobody batted an eye.
hill-climbs would be the exception to the public roads thing .... I've never been asked if the car was even street legal much less if it's titled
and all you have to do is look to the mod class "cars" ... no title on many of them
Hillclimbs have a class for 'specials'.
Don't think this one has a title or a tag. 
AFAIK title and tag are not necessary for Solo 1 or 2, never seen anything in the rules. It might be in the supps for a particular event, but that's a local thing not national.
True I should have said "non-closed public roads."
IIRC the rules for TSD say that you will be excluded if you break/get caught breaking traffic regulations in the course of the event.
I thought of one - some "true street" drag racing classes require that a car have valid registration, specifically excluding dealer tags. Having a title may or may not be required to get that, though. (Do you get the title with a leased vehicle?)
Knurled wrote:
(Do you get the title with a leased vehicle?)
Don't think so, since you aren't the owner of the car. You also don't get to hold title on a car with payments in Ohio, the note holder gets that honor....
Knurled wrote:
IIRC the rules for TSD say that you will be excluded if you break/get caught breaking traffic regulations in the course of the event.
Yep you'll get a penalty or be disqualified depending on what it is.
I have never been asked for registration or title at any event I entered.
Purpose built race cars don't have titles.
N Sperlo wrote:
I'm pretty sure the passenger in Clem's car denotes that we are running the "special class."
Took the words right out of my mouth 
I have been asked to prove ownership at every rallycross I've ever run (even after running the car for two years in the same series), and several autocrosses. I didn't think it was any of their business, but they wouldn't let me run if I didn't.
Zomby Woof wrote:
I have been asked to prove ownership at every rallycross I've ever run (even after running the car for two years in the same series), and several autocrosses. I didn't think it was any of their business, but they wouldn't let me run if I didn't.
this is specifically what I'm worried about. I could probably get a bill of sale from the PO, but he never had the car in his name, so that doesnt really do E36 M3. Not having luck finding the P-PO, so I guess technically the car isn't even in my name at all.
I guess I might as well just part it to finance something with a title BEFORE I get elbow deep into this thing=/
I can understand wanting a title but you will never need it at a track day. Unless the P-PO or PO reports it stolen and knows what track day you are at. I never brought my title to my track car with me to track days and it had no license plate. Only thing they were worried about was that I was registered for the event, my brake lights worked, and I had a proper helmet.
Only production based cars should have or need a title. Most racing events don't care.
The local racetrack, PIR, is a public park and the local police were staking out the return road of the drag strip and ticketing people for exceeding the speed limit and then impounding cars without valid titles. It didn't go over well, but it was legal if not a complete dick move.
Maybe you could just contact the groups you plan on running with, and tell them "this is my car, this is what's been done to it... And by the way, I have no title for it". Am I welcome to come out and play with you?
Even larger groups like BMWCCA or PCA can have major differences on what is acceptable or not, depending on which chapter you are running with.
gotcha, now I'm just torn between whether I really wanna put a LOT of time and effort into a car I (1) won't be able to drive on the street, (2) won't be able to get any money out of when it's time to get rid of it because it will have no title, and (3) has the built in handling quirks and setup challenges of an mr2, when what I wanted in the first place was honestly either an old civic/crx, a 7mgte supra, an fc, or an NA...
anyone need any mr2 parts?=]
In reply to corytate:
what kinda car you have anyway?
just wondering, can it be replaced w/ titled vehicle cheaply?
edit: just seen it, about 2 minutes too late
^^this is something I am really thinking about because I've been reading through 92celicahalftrac's build thread, and how he found an mx3 (what he originally wanted) for a steal only after he dumped an absurd amount of time and money into the 'scort.
I don't wanna end up with regrets or feeling like I lost out on this thing, I want something I can build up slowly to a ridiculous standard, and race for a good long time (and possibly drive on the street when the kia is down and out)
i just don't know. I'm not into the mr2 too deep now, just $650 and a couple dozen hours. And candy to reward myself and my friends for finally dropping the damn gas tank out of it lol
If it's a real concern for you, go to one of the local repair shops and ask them how they get a title on an abandoned vehicle. Then go through that process before dumping a pile of $ in it. Bonus: you'll be able to sell it quick with a title.
Curmudgeon wrote:
If it's a real concern for you, go to one of the local repair shops and ask them how they get a title on an abandoned vehicle. Then go through that process before dumping a pile of $ in it. Bonus: you'll be able to sell it quick with a title.
quite a good idea sir. Will look into that!
screw it, I'll race it regardless. It will be a great learning experience at the very least.
Look into a bonded title, basically so long as the last titled owner doesn't claim it's stolen, you can get a title.
