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JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
5/3/11 4:43 p.m.

Carp, anyone http://hooniverse.com/2011/05/02/q-how-to-hunt-illinois-carp-with-a-sword-while-on-waterskis/

fasted58
fasted58 Reader
5/3/11 4:54 p.m.

like a character out of the Road Warrior, only on water

mtn
mtn SuperDork
5/3/11 4:57 p.m.

That was awesome, and only 45 minutes away from me!

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
5/3/11 6:32 p.m.

as serious as a problem as this is.. those guys made me laugh. I wish them well and good luck in taking out as many of those things as they can

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair SuperDork
5/3/11 7:43 p.m.

awesome! i do not heart invasive species.

mtn
mtn SuperDork
5/3/11 8:19 p.m.

These things are a serious problem, and unfortunately will probably be in the Great Lakes before too long.

I personally think that the DNR should offer a reward for each head brought in, something to the tune of $0.50. I gotta imagine that people would be all over that.

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
5/3/11 8:24 p.m.

I imagine you could catch a bunch with two boats....one in front to spook them, and one following that is surrounded by a halo of horizontal nets

Grtechguy
Grtechguy SuperDork
5/3/11 8:25 p.m.
mtn wrote: These things are a serious problem, and unfortunately will probably be in the Great Lakes before too long. I personally think that the DNR should offer a reward for each head brought in, something to the tune of $0.50. I gotta imagine that people would be all over that.

I agree, Michigan has enough rednecks to kill of a species

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
5/3/11 8:36 p.m.

That was AWESOME!

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
5/3/11 9:18 p.m.

I'm sure glad I'm too old and have too much sense to do that, cause otherwise that'd be me behind the boat!

Woody
Woody SuperDork
5/3/11 9:27 p.m.

That's a whole new kind of stupid.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
5/3/11 9:30 p.m.

"when the carp take over the highway, pray he's still out there"

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade HalfDork
5/3/11 9:30 p.m.

I wish those guys the best of luck. Kudzu and Carp: next time someone wants to import some species from the "Far East", just say no.

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
5/4/11 5:43 a.m.
DoctorBlade wrote: next time someone wants to import some species from the "Far East", just say no.

No love for snakeheads?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-516092/Panic-Franken-fish-deadlier-piranha-caught-Britain.html

RossD
RossD SuperDork
5/4/11 7:32 a.m.

For as awesomely stupid/great as that video was, I have a different view of invasive species. If a species thrives somewhere new and displaces a weaker one, it deserves to be there. The world is an ever changine place and nothing remains constant. Lake Trout and Walleye are great and all, but if this rotten fish takes over, thats survival of the fittest in my eyes. Same thing if pandas wont bang to perpetuate the species; let them die.

Luke
Luke SuperDork
5/4/11 7:59 a.m.

That's fair enough, but keep in mind, most exotic species are introduced by way of humans. Not only do you end up with a lake full of E36 M3ty carp, but they'll likely berkeley up the food chain for the rest of the ecosystem, too.

Frigid pandas are another matter altogether

RossD
RossD SuperDork
5/4/11 8:11 a.m.
Luke wrote: That's fair enough, but keep in mind, most exotic species are introduced by way of humans. Not only do you end up with a lake full of E36 M3ty carp, but they'll likely berkeley up the food chain for the rest of the ecosystem, too. Frigid pandas are another matter altogether

'Berkeley up the food chain' is a point of view.

I didnt get to watch the video to the end, did a carp ever stick on to his armor?

mndsm
mndsm SuperDork
5/4/11 8:15 a.m.

Do these taste ok? Seems to me that the asian side of the world has been eating carp forever. Mebbe we need carp fishsticks or something. If we can convince americans they taste good, they'll be gone in no time.

John Brown
John Brown SuperDork
5/4/11 8:21 a.m.

Watching what my goldfish does to other animals is amazing. I put in a plecostamus to help keep the tank clean... gone in 24 hours. Similar sized Pacu? Half eaten within a week. It is a beast, now a single fish in a 20 gallon aquarium and he may have actually outgrown it. I was calling him Frankenfin until I got a glimpse of thet freakshow up there ^^^ yikes.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
5/4/11 8:24 a.m.
RossD wrote:
Luke wrote: That's fair enough, but keep in mind, most exotic species are introduced by way of humans. Not only do you end up with a lake full of E36 M3ty carp, but they'll likely berkeley up the food chain for the rest of the ecosystem, too. Frigid pandas are another matter altogether
'Berkeley up the food chain' is a point of view. I didnt get to watch the video to the end, did a carp ever stick on to his armor?

No.... but he got one on his Freddy Krueger blades and then stuck it to his awesome spiked cowboy hat/football helmet.

carguy123
carguy123 SuperDork
5/4/11 9:49 a.m.

One mistake in the video, it wasn't a Cletus from Arkansas who imported them, it was the Asian community because they like to eat them. There was a special on TV about a year ago discussing all the damage they've done.

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
5/4/11 11:44 a.m.
John Brown wrote: I was calling him Frankenfin until I got a glimpse of thet freakshow up there ^^^ yikes.

snakehead vs. 10 inch bass

RossD wrote: I have a different view of invasive species. If a species thrives somewhere new and displaces a weaker one, it deserves to be there. The world is an ever changine place and nothing remains constant.

Tell that to the fisherman who's unemployed because the fish they used to catch can't compete, or the owner of the bait shop that went out of business when all the sport fish in the local water were killed. The same for the operator of the charter boat...

(And when the space aliens start to take over earth, don't go whining about it. If they're stronger, they deserve to be here.... )

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
5/4/11 11:51 a.m.
mndsm wrote: Do these taste ok? Seems to me that the asian side of the world has been eating carp forever. Mebbe we need carp fishsticks or something. If we can convince americans they taste good, they'll be gone in no time.

Carp are popular as a food source in both Asia and Europe....they are a good source of protein because they are trash fish that can be raised on anything.
http://www.bassonhook.com/fishforfood/carprecipes.html

I actually like carp cakes; i.e. crab cakes made with carp meat instead of crab meat. I've never tried blackened carp, but expect that they'd be good that way, too.

RossD
RossD SuperDork
5/4/11 11:53 a.m.

In reply to JoeyM: Well if the Asian community likes to eat them, then why cant the fisherman sell them? and the bait shop still sell bait? and the charter boat captain take out charters? By that same arguement we shouldn't let the wild elk herds to trample over the Alaskan oil fields because look how much money we could be making.

RE:Space aliens: E36 M3 sucks when you're on the losing end!

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
5/4/11 12:11 p.m.

Hey, the Chinese eat palm civets, too. That's how they gave us SARS. People in SouthEast Asia eat those ugly snakehead fish I posted above.

There's a reason why Durian, uni and natto are not things found in most grocery stores here; i.e. just because some people, somewhere eat a food doesn't mean you'll find a viable market for it here in the USA. Sure, people will eat stuff they don't like to avoid starving, but that's a separate issue from what they want to buy in the market.

Besides, you haven't addressed the loss of jobs related to the recreational fishing industry. Boat builders, fishing gear vendors....lots of people get screwed when a fishery is destroyed by an invasive species.

No need to reply. I'm done with this thread....leaving before it turns political.

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