Trying to help my brother.
His kitchen has 7 layers of linoleum, and a layer of tarpaper glued down in the kitchen. Its all gotta come up for the tile and cement board.
Were 5 layers and tarpaper. This E36 M3 is stuck like aids. All glued together and to the floor.
Weve made a dent with a digging iron and a weed burning propane torch, but beat ourselves to death to get about 6 square feet in 2 hours. Gotta be an easier way, as killing it with fire didn't work.
Ideas?
Cut out the subfloor and start again. Much like drywall with painted wallpaper, it will be less work to just replace it, and the end result will be much better with a nice finish.
take circular saw, set to near total depth of linoleum.. do lots of cuts.. then pry out...
You're welcome
In reply to RX Reven' :
What is that and where do I get one that maybe the Magic Bullet I am looking for
Stop by Lowes.
Go to the roofing section.
Get one of these.
Finish quickly and drink beer.
In reply to Dusterbd13 :
Stow Electric Floor Covering Scraper
I used a tool similar to the one in Toyman's post for a tough job once...it worked well but if I had to do the job again, I'd throw more money at the problem and get something with power.
Home depot in the next town over rents them. Gonna go get one.
Rx: if you'r ever on the east coast, beer is on my brother.
The Navy used air hammers at Guadalcanal... Something I don't think that'll work for you.
In reply to RX Reven' :
Asbestos abatement contractors used those on several of my jobs. I’ve seen the tile so stuck, they had to use hammers and break it up in quarter size pieces.
spitfirebill said:In reply to RX Reven' :
Asbestos abatement contractors used those on several of my jobs. I’ve seen the tile so stuck, they had to use hammers and break it up in quarter size pieces.
My nemesis was a 6’ X 10’ entry that had oak planks glued to a concrete slab with a continuous layer of tar. I went after it with chemicals, torch, a scrapper like Toyman’s, and ultimately an angle grinder with a wire wheel attachment.
I feel Dusterbd13’s pain and thought I’d suggest he just hit the problem with $$$ and power right out of the gate.
In reply to RX Reven' :
We have about 300 square feet to do. Money well spent if it works
The kitchen we are redoing only had 2 layers of linoleum, but also 2 subfloors. Am liking the lowe's scraper in the roofing section..
Asbestos is a serious concern, both the glue and the coverings. Do everything possible to control the dust and protect yourselves.
Linoleum is worse than floor tile as far as asbestos goes. The pad on the back of linoleum is where the asbestos is and it can be fairly high percentage. The problem is when flooring companies sand the remnants of the backer off the subfloor. Many houses were contaminated by this. That is why most flooring companies now put down a thin layer plywood over the linoleum instead of removing it.
When we would monitor floor tile abatement projects, the airborne fiber count inside the work site was negligible, even on those projects where they had to get very physica" with the tile.
FYI, asbestos was removed from floor tile in the 70s, but the mastic still contained it for many years afterward. I inspected a brand new school in 1988 that had 100,000 SF of non-asbestos floor tile, but the mastic was hot. They were not a happy school district and that may have gone to litigation. While I was inspecting the school, the teachers were cursing me out for pissing way the district's money of which they had very little. Of course there was a Federal law requiring all schools to be inspected.
Fueled by Caffeine said:take circular saw, set to near total depth of linoleum.. do lots of cuts.. then pry out...
that's how I removed the thin layer of ply under the linoleum in my entrance. I had replaced the hall with bamboo and when I got to the entrance, I discovered the ply that would have raised the bamboo up 1/8 an inch. I cut it with my cordless circ into 12 x 12 inch squares and used a wooden wedge and a hammer to pry them up.
I set my circ saw to the right depth and just cut down through 4 layers plus 3/4 ply down to the T&G subfloor. Pryed it out in about 3x3 sections.
New 1/2" ply, new 1/2" hardie backer, new VCT.
Don't ask if there was asbestos. I'm sure there was.
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