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mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
12/26/14 11:23 p.m.
Wally wrote: Until people realize that the difference is not color but in how people choose to live their lives we can't fix anything. Some people have decided to opt out of becoming members of society and the ones who do go on to become law abiding productive citizens are looked down on as sell out. I hear people told that they forget where they came from. They generally haven't they just don't want to stay where they were.

You know, that's the funniest part about it, I've seen the same thing. Getting out of the hood, speaking clearly, not having 15 kids with 16 baby daddies, all considered selling out. But when someone goes and does all the stupid E36 M3 that comes with staying true to the game, they piss and moan that the man is trying to keep them down. I'm sorry, you created your own mess. I grew up just as ghetto as you. I had every opportunity to go ahead and berkeley my life up, but I did something weird and I acheived something. A good friend of mine, former supervisor, and black guy we used to talk about all the hood rats that would come in for interviews. Sorry, Ebonics (holy E36 M3 my phone auto capitalized that) doesn't play in health insurance. He just shook his head. He's berkeleying smart, funny as hell, chill, and all that. But gets labelled a sellout because he has a good job and drives a nice car and isn't on the dole. I don't get it.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro UberDork
12/27/14 12:26 a.m.

I believe what you were describing is called "Keeping it real"/

yupididit
yupididit Reader
12/27/14 12:45 a.m.
mndsm wrote: Oh so the random killings they're sure its only bad cops. Thats good. I would hate for innocent hard working men and women to get murdered randomly out of misguided bias and rage.

Me too

yupididit
yupididit Reader
12/27/14 1:01 a.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: And just what is this "racism" stuff? Are we supposed to believe that every person is identical to every other person on the planet? That's stoopid. Are we to assume that people of different races are all the same? That's stoopid too. You don't go looking for sickle cell anemia in Scandinavians, for example. There's a reason that people are grouped into different races. Because THEY ARE DIFFERENT. Yes, we all have the same number of chromosomes (normally) and we can all interbreed, like dogs, but we are all different. American Indians are not the same as Australian Aboriginals. They are different. ZOMG, DAT BE RAYSIS. Anyway, as long as there is a box on a government non-healthcare form that asks for your race, there will never be equality, which is what I think everyone would like.

What is race and what is white and what is black?

What makes me considered black? Is there a biological way to tell I'm black? Like scientifically? What makes a black so different from a white vs what you see? Is it the same scientific/biological differences that makes a Doberman different from a Greyhound?

What was considered white in 1920 vs what was considered white in 1940?

What is Spanish? Is that white? Or something else? Are Egyptians considered white? Or are they blacks because they're from a continent named Africa?

Maybe if Scandinavians spent generations in a region where malaria was rampant then your question would be pointless.

Humans look different because regional and environmental adaptations. But enough variations for humans to be truly different?

Or is my fawn doberman really so different from my black one? My fawn one is more susceptible to skin diseases and allergies while my black isn't. What is it sir?

You're indeed not racist. But, you def believe the hype.

yupididit
yupididit Reader
12/27/14 1:08 a.m.
Trans_Maro wrote: The future is going to suck. How are we going to have these conflicts once the future humans are so interbred that we're all a lovely shade of "office neutral".

My son is black, spainard, and asian. Not interbred (because we arent different breeds) but "multiracial". Funny because people can never guess what he is. We get guesses like, "is he Samoan?".

It will be interesting to see what will be the next form of 'keep fellow humans down'.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
12/27/14 7:21 a.m.
Trans_Maro wrote: I believe what you were describing is called "Keeping it real"/

That's exactly what wed say to. " I don't need that school E36 M3, I'm keepin it real!"

Wally
Wally MegaDork
12/27/14 7:52 a.m.

The stupidity of some people is frightening. I have had three different people try to convince me that all these people are being murdered by the police to harvest their organs. Like an idiot I tried to point out all the flaws in that plan and I'm the moron for believing what the government wants me to. If we were really collecting the organs of young men wouldn't it be easier to do it in prisons instead of shooting them in the streets and hoping we don't hit whichever bits we needed?

Racer1ab
Racer1ab Dork
12/27/14 8:11 a.m.

In reply to Wally:

Once people inhale the chemtrails, they are prone to believe any conspiracy theory!

For fun, I'd just nod solemnly when told about the organ repo cops, and advise people to fashion tinfoil undergarments because they'll block the genetic scanners.

Wally
Wally MegaDork
12/27/14 8:30 a.m.

I agreed with them that we are taking their organs just not that we take them in the streets. That's horribly inefficient.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
12/27/14 8:34 a.m.
Wally wrote: I agreed with them that we are taking their organs just not that we take them in the streets. That's horribly inefficient.

Next time, talk a bunch of BS code into your radio and make an inferrence to the person you're talking to's liver or something. Take video.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
12/27/14 8:43 a.m.

In reply to yupididit:

You're relatively new here... Don't pay too much attention to what Dr. Hess says about politics, race, or religion.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
12/27/14 8:47 a.m.
yupididit wrote: It will be interesting to see what will be the next form of 'keep fellow humans down'.

Power and money. Self perpetuating themselves. Same as always.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
12/27/14 8:54 a.m.

In reply to yupididit:

I don't think you quite understood me, yupididit. From a medical perspective, you must consider the race of your human patient. Azerbaijan Jews have problems than Samoans do not. Southern Europeans can have thalassemia. Chinese: liver cancer. There are many more examples. Yes, many of the things you have to think about are releated to malaria. Yes, there are scientific tests available today to tell what race a person is. It is an expensive DNA analysis test and it is much easier to ask the patient what race they are, as almost everyone knows their family is from Spain, or Sweden.

Race classifications for medical purposes depend on where the patients family is from, for say, the past 5-10K years. Race classifications for POLITICAL purposes is different. In that case, then, for example, virtually any black human ancestor (people descended from people from the African continent) will let or get that person classified as "African-American / Black." Birth certificates (a government form) state the race of the parents. Also realize that the Black American is genetically ~20% white. Yes, I think this label will keep that person down today, compared to a label of, say, Chinese. Mainly because the various governments are set up to give free E36 M3 if that person claims to be Black. I have personally seen poor white people denied government "benefits" because of their race, as they specifically asked: "If I was Hispanic, would I get this?" "Yes." That free E36 M3 from the government is the most destructive thing you can possibly do to a group of people. Drive through a reservation some time.

So, are the different races different? Yes, they are different and no, they are all human.

KyAllroad
KyAllroad HalfDork
12/27/14 3:34 p.m.

Semi related story to insert here (seems like the right page).

Yesterday SWMBO was invited out by coworkers to a club and I was instructed to tag along and "dress to impress".

Got to the club and was frisked (a first for me) and went in to discover I was the only white person in the place (SWMBO is Asian).

No biggie though, the crowd was friendly and having a good time. We cruised around a bit, drank a couple of drinks, enjoyed the music, and chatted with some friends.

At about midnight however a different crowd rolled in. Pushy, loud, saggy pants, visibly intoxicated. The whole vibe of the place and I could see that the earlier group wasn't terribly happy with the newcomers (we're talking roughly 200 people at first and maybe that many more came in during the changeover). SWMBOs friend (black lady) said: "well, the RUDE people are here now." And was ready to leave.

Interesting evening to be sure, I was never threatened or felt uncomfortable by any means but the second crowd certainly changed the overal atmosphere of the club.

Knurled
Knurled PowerDork
12/27/14 3:42 p.m.
mndsm wrote:
Wally wrote: I agreed with them that we are taking their organs just not that we take them in the streets. That's horribly inefficient.
Next time, talk a bunch of BS code into your radio and make an inferrence to the person you're talking to's liver or something. Take video.

Pure. Win.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
12/27/14 4:30 p.m.
Beer Baron wrote: In reply to yupididit: You're relatively new here... Don't pay too much attention to what Dr. Hess says about politics, race, or religion.

yupididit
yupididit Reader
12/27/14 4:41 p.m.

Otay!

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
12/27/14 4:57 p.m.

As usual I'm not qualified lol.

Wally
Wally MegaDork
12/27/14 5:23 p.m.

In reply to N Sperlo: Do you have any experience in retail? I don't think managing a Trader Joes would be that difficult.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo MegaDork
12/27/14 5:27 p.m.

I thought that was a "Mate" job.

ronholm
ronholm Dork
12/28/14 11:29 a.m.

This was started by a bunch of people who wanted to do a "berkeley the police" type protest.. I assume because at the mall there is lot of glass and stuff..

They are doing a very good job of covering, and dismissing that in the media (despite it being widespread on social media) because these idiots couldn't stop fighting with each other long enough to get any kind of message out.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/27713158/police-converge-on-independence-center-mall-after-large-crowd-causes-disturbance

http://www.kshb.com/news/region-missouri/independence/shoppers-want-accountability-after-teens-fight-at-independence-center

oddly i understand the same exact thing happened in Pittsburgh?

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
12/28/14 11:32 a.m.

Opryland too. 3 mall brawls in 2 days. Excellent way to show solidarity. And people wonder why they're charging the organizers of the one at moa with stuff. We got lucky..... I'm genuinely surprised it didn't break out in a riot.

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