Wally
Wally SuperDork
7/22/10 6:35 p.m.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/chilling_toll_of_times_sq_bomb_400MLFIYrBDELDqzmiq0EM

Thankfully, it didn't go off as planned.

A secret FBI test of a correctly made version of the Times Square bomb revealed that it "would have killed thousands of people" if it had been made to explode as terrorists had intended, law-enforcement sources told The Post yesterday.

Had he built the Times Square device the way he had originally intended to, terrorist Faisal Shahzad, would have turned his SUV and nearby vehicles into a fatal spray of razor-sharp fragments and transformed building windows into glass guillotines hurtling to the streets, cutting down hundreds of people walking by.

The results were discovered after feds composed the type of bomb Shahzad set out to make -- with the exact components he had initially intended to use -- and exploded it in Pennsylvania last month.

"It would have been the biggest thing ever to happen in this country since Sept. 11," another source said.

"It definitely would have been bigger than [the 1995] Oklahoma City" bombing of the federal building that killed 168 people, the source said. "There would have been a lot of casualties."

"People would also have been stomped to death from running away. It would have been panic. The buildings would have been severely damaged."

One source added: "If you look at the four corners [near the bomb] that night, there could easily be 500 people between 20 to 30 feet from the car.

"Any car going down that block or parked nearby would have been turned into fragments, because that SUV's going to rip apart those cars. More people get killed by the fragments than the actual explosion."

Shahzad's homemade bomb -- on which he substituted less effective, cheaper components for the more expensive and deadly components he had planned to use -- was left in the back seat of his parked SUV in the middle of Times Square, where it smoldered but failed to detonate.

Street vendors noticed the smoke and alerted police. The cops quickly evacuated the tourist-packed area as they dismantled the device.

Shahzad, 30, was nabbed several days later trying to flee the country. Last month, he pleaded guilty to federal terrorism charges, saying he wanted to attack America in retaliation for US military killings of Muslims abroad.

At the end of June, the FBI built its replica of the bomb and exploded it outside Harrisburg, Pa., to test its destructive force, sources said.

The results of the explosive test were sobering -- showing that Shahzad was on track to becoming the biggest individual mass murderer in US history, several sources said.

"This attempt failed," one source said. "But no one thinks this is the only time someone is going to try to blow something up in Times Square."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/chilling_toll_of_times_sq_bomb_400MLFIYrBDELDqzmiq0EM#ixzz0uSPXE9nd

JoeyM
JoeyM HalfDork
7/22/10 8:08 p.m.

That's too close....glad he's ok

mad_machine
mad_machine SuperDork
7/22/10 9:09 p.m.

thankfully incompetance seems to run amuck in the ranks of the terrorists

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair SuperDork
7/22/10 9:29 p.m.

In reply to mad_machine:

and in spell check

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
7/22/10 11:51 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: thankfully incompetance seems to run amuck in the ranks of the terrorists

"There are no veterans, only Martyrs"

eastsidemav
eastsidemav Reader
7/23/10 7:31 a.m.

"It is getting harder and harder to find suicide bombers. All the really good ones are gone"

oldsaw
oldsaw Dork
7/23/10 7:34 a.m.

Jeff Dunham: referring to the "suicide bomber training camp": Is that a nice facility?

Achmed the Dead Terrorist: It used to be!

Jeff Dunham: What happened?

Achmed the Dead Terrorist: New guy! The idiot tried to practice!

Jeff Dunham: What did you guys learn from that?

Achmed the Dead Terrorist: LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION!

pilotbraden
pilotbraden Reader
7/23/10 7:42 a.m.

The following article has many instances of terrorist stupidity. Mostly they are hapless morons, not the supermen the media and government would have us believe. Of course sometimes they do get lucky. http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=11992

Wally
Wally SuperDork
7/23/10 5:59 p.m.

I was so depressed last night I called the Suicide Hotline. I got a call center in Pakistan, and when I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck...

914Driver
914Driver SuperDork
7/23/10 6:51 p.m.

So, Achmed; did you get your 72 Virgins?

Arrrrgggghhhhh.....

What?

I got to Martyrdom and Walter Reed walks up and kicks me in the gut.

Next, Thomas Jefferson walks up and says "You sir are a blackheart." and lays a haymaker to my temple.

From nowhere Patrick Henry punches me right in the face!

OMG, I didn't get 72 Virgins.

I got 72 Virginians!!!! And were they pissed!

minimac
minimac SuperDork
7/23/10 8:05 p.m.

When they get to where ever it is they think they are going, they'll find themselves surrounded by 72 of the fattest, ugliest, meanest lesbians to ever wear a veil. There's a very good reason why they're virgins.........

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
7/23/10 8:34 p.m.
Wally wrote: I was so depressed last night I called the Suicide Hotline. I got a call center in Pakistan, and when I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck...

Ahhhh, outsourcing....

mpolans
mpolans New Reader
7/24/10 7:12 a.m.

So, now that there have been female suicide bombers, what do they get 72 of?

Wally
Wally SuperDork
7/24/10 7:19 a.m.

Knurled
Knurled Reader
7/24/10 10:13 a.m.

Um.

500 people in a 20 to 30 foot radius?

Was there an orgy at the time? I can't imagine people being packed that tightly without some form of fluid exchange.

Knurled
Knurled Reader
7/24/10 10:39 a.m.

No, I've not.

(Comic Book Guy mode)

That's 2.5 to 5.6 square feet per person in an open field, less if you remove obstructions like other cars, poles, and so on. 2.5 square feet is a box about 19 inches per side. 5.6 is a box about 28 inches per side.

Again. Fluid exhange.

Twin_Cam
Twin_Cam Dork
7/25/10 10:45 a.m.

I was about three blocks from that when it ALMOST happened. That E36 M3 is scary. Was just in NYC for a day trip.

Times Square on New Year's Eve is so crowded you can't lift your arms. You can just about lift your legs off the ground and remain upright. Which is why my friend and I ditched and found a bar haha.

Wally
Wally SuperDork
7/25/10 9:08 p.m.

Luckily I was on the bridge going home but I had spent the day working about 15 blocks from there. This isn't going to sound right but It was nice to miss a clusterberkeley for once.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill Dork
7/26/10 9:55 a.m.

Well I'm glad they didn't leak a secret memo telling our sworn enemies how effective it would have been if it HAD worked.

John Brown
John Brown SuperDork
7/26/10 10:01 a.m.

Cause something that complicated would be almost impossible to duplicate, right?

mndsm
mndsm HalfDork
7/26/10 10:31 a.m.

Especially considering the knotheads at the FBI made sure it worked FOR them.

oldsaw
oldsaw Dork
7/26/10 10:37 a.m.

The plans are hardly a secret. Otherwise, Shahzad wouldn't have known how to build the bomb. He failed because he was too Americanized and cheaped-out on the components.

We got lucky AGAIN. A terrorist only has to be lucky once.

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