Two of the healthcare workers that treated the Ebola victim in Dallas have been diagnosed with it. Healthcare officials just said don't be surprised if a couple more show up in the next couple weeks. They also said everything is working and they have no plans to quarantine any of the 75 other people who had contact with the first victim while he was in the hospital.
They are sending the second nurse to Atlanta to get treated.
Um, OK, sounds good
Nurse two spent the day before her "diagnosis" jammed in a flight from Cleveland to Dallas. Yeah, those folks should be fine.....
They keep saying it is relatively hard to spread but there have been a number of cases now that occurred even with PPE. I don't really want to bleed out of my eyes, so if they could just get this under control, that would be awesome.
So who is up for watching Outbreak and Contagion?
In reply to rebelgtp:
I was thinking I should re-read "The Stand".
They haven't revealed what it was, but there was mention of a breach of protocol when the Liberian guy was mis-diagnosed and then later diagnosed with it. Curious what it was since it would be prudent information to the public and other health care workers.
GAAAH and she flew on a plane!!!!11one!uno
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/15/us-health-ebola-usa-idUSKCN0I40UE20141015
NOOOOOO WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!! 
I'll put on my tin foil hat:
I don't get why they continue to send the infected to all these difference hospitals? It seems as though one central place with all the proper protocols and equipment would be the best solution? Quarantine them together since they are already infected?
Insert eugenics/NWO/etc conspiracies.
z31maniac wrote: I'll put on my tin foil hat: I don't get why they continue to send the infected to all these difference hospitals? It seems as though one central place with all the proper protocols and equipment would be the best solution? Quarantine them together since they are already infected? Insert eugenics/NWO/etc conspiracies.
For one thing, the place would need to have its own airstrip or you'd be passing the infected through more airports.
It would also have to be built in a remote place to avoid NIMBY effects. Which means higher costs again.
Pffft, it'll be fine. If you don't catch it, less traffic on your way to your job where less competion for the work will drive up employee wages (like the plague did for the middle ages). If you do catch it, you bleed out and don't have to deal with anything anymore. Either way, no problem. (am I jaded and cynical?)
fritzsch wrote: They keep saying it is relatively hard to spread but there have been a number of cases now that occurred even with PPE. I don't really want to bleed out of my eyes, so if they could just get this under control, that would be awesome.
As a note, this disease is the same one that occurred in Africa (in what, 1977?), so they are pretty solid on what this is, and how it spreads, bodily fluids. Generally, someone is only likely to spread it when they are very sick. When they are very sick, they start "producing" a lot of various fluids. If you are in the area of a sick person and are not protected or poorly protected, you are in risk.
The main reason these people (the few there has been in these hospitals) are getting infected appears to be because they are around these people when they are spewing fluids and are in some way, not following proper protocol.
Hopefully, the big lesson here will be to teach and confirm PROPER protocol for these types of diseases at hospital etc.
Also useful to know, as stated by a CD expert, this disease can and will NOT evolve / mutate to a different form (e.g. transmission means). As noted above, this is the same virus that has been around for a long time.
It's also not as deadly as some may believe. It appears to be 50-75% fatal, almost certainly a lot lower (if caught early) in a US hospital. Not great, but not horrific.
z31maniac wrote: I'll put on my tin foil hat: ... Insert eugenics/NWO/etc conspiracies.
The conspiracy I keep hearing is that terrorists are infecting themselves with Ebola and coming here to spread it. Granted there havnt been any confirmed cases outside the Duncan exposure yet.
Apparently people are going nuts buying their own PPE and gas masks.
KyAllroad wrote: Pffft, it'll be fine. If you don't catch it, less traffic on your way to your job where less competion for the work will drive up employee wages (like the plague did for the middle ages). If you do catch it, you bleed out and don't have to deal with anything anymore. Either way, no problem. (am I jaded and cynical?)
I'm mostly with you.
The other thing to keep in mind I that Duncan underwent dialysis and intebation - two procedures with very high fluids exposure risk for caregivers.
Transport risk is a big issue against limited treatment centers. Local level education for hospital staff needs to be addresed asap, including drills on proper donning and removal of ppe.
rebelgtp wrote: The conspiracy I keep hearing is that terrorists are infecting themselves with Ebola and coming here to spread it.
that's definitely not what's happening as they'd be using tinder as well as airplanes if that were the case
rebelgtp wrote: The conspiracy I keep hearing is that terrorists are infecting themselves with Ebola and coming here to spread it.
That would be an awesome way to terrorize people but it wouldn't kill many people. Even a stabbing spree could kill more, and you don't have to rub up on a corpse at a funeral in Africa first.
It honestly would be a great way to spread "terror", even it doesn't kill many. But, realistically, it's not needed, the media is doing a fine job of spreading that already. (does this mean they can be taken out by a drone strike if they leave the country?)
aircooled wrote: But, realistically, it's not needed, the media is doing a find job of spreading that already. (does this mean they can be taken out by a drone strike if they leave the country?)
I don't see why not, it was enough for that Al-Awlaki guy.
Oh I agree there would be better ways to rack up a body count but like I said its one of the "theories" I have been hearing. It would however make people go nuts if the story spread.
I think the big story will be if/when someone catches it from one of the health care workers. That will mean it's really I the wild so to speak and it has a real chance of becoming something big.
GameboyRMH wrote:z31maniac wrote: I'll put on my tin foil hat: I don't get why they continue to send the infected to all these difference hospitals? It seems as though one central place with all the proper protocols and equipment would be the best solution? Quarantine them together since they are already infected? Insert eugenics/NWO/etc conspiracies.For one thing, the place would need to have its own airstrip or you'd be passing the infected through more airports. It would also have to be built in a remote place to avoid NIMBY effects. Which means higher costs again.
Airstrip? For 3 people?
From my understanding, there was one taken to Atlanta, one to Nebraska, and one to Dallas whom eventually passed (and a care worker in Dallas that was diagnosed).
I find it hard to believe we could send thousands of US Military to Liberia to construct tents/treatment facilities, but we couldn't setup a well trained staff in one location to treat all those diagnosed.
rebelgtp wrote: ...That will mean it's really I the wild so to speak and it has a real chance of becoming something big.
Meh... seems unlikely. The way that is spreads makes it harder to infect people who do not know they are in danger. It doesn't really hide like AIDs for example. One of the issues with Africa, and how it took hold (which will make spreading it easier) is they were actively working AGAINST the preventative techniques.
I am not saying it could not spread in the wild, but it would be very unlikely it could take up the classic epidemic pattern. It's really not a good "design" for that. The short incubation and low communicability when not sick really hurt it.
Yes, I am an expert because I have played:
numerous times 
(actually a pretty good way to learn what makes a disease "effective")
In reply to aircooled:
Someone at work was just talking about that game yesterday. I may have to check it out.
So ebola has now overtaken "crushed by a vending machine" in number of annual deaths in the US. Wake me up when is gets past "killed in sheep-related accident"*
(*31 as of 2010)
JG Pasterjak wrote: So ebola has now overtaken "crushed by a vending machine" in number of annual deaths in the US. Wake me up when is gets past "killed in sheep-related accident"* (*31 as of 2010)
Or the flu, which kills an anywhere from 3000 to 49,000 a year.....
-Rob
Human trials going on just now on a vaccine that was developed in Winnipeg. I guess those horrible winters are good for something- "Its so cold out, we might as well stay at work."
Streetwiseguy wrote: Human trials going on just now on a vaccine that was developed in Winnipeg.
Bhahaha, Ebola has been around forever but the instant some white people are at risk, the E36 M3 gets solved.
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