The Greek tragedy (2011)

Osterkraut wrote:

Cone_Junky wrote:

fromeast2west wrote:

1988RedT2 wrote: I've been suggesting that we kick California out of the U.S. for years, but a lot of people are resistant to the idea.

It would be awesome if you kicked us out. We're one of the countries biggest net payers in taxes (as opposed to states that take in more funding than they pay out). So we'll just keep our money for ourselves, change you to use our ports, and team up with the Eastern states to sell you all your medicine and technology. .. and you'll have less money to pay for it because we won't have to follow your Texan based governments uneven tax distribution schemes!!

Imagine what we could charge the rest of them for every product that comes out of Silicone Valley! Please let us recede...

Not half as much as they'll charge you for little things like, oh, water and power!

That's a scary thought. If Nevada stopped supplying us with water, how would we grow the produce to feed half of the country?

And they already do charge us tons of money for all their excess water and power.

But we're getting a berkeleyin awesome train!!!

As for Greece, I hope they drag the value of the Euro down a little bit farther over the next month or two. They've been making my trip to Germany less and less expensive.

Thank you Dr.Hess your post was very informative. I came across this post on the BBC today, it seems to answer all of my questions.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15575751

Thanks Paul B

mndsm wrote:

4cylndrfury wrote: I love it when Hess posts stuff like that

Best thing i've read all day.

Word. I'm also sure all the Germans in Germany and all the other people in the EU who actually work for a living are mighty sick of hearing about Greece.

Just like I'm sick of hearing about how awesome California is (it isn't) in a thread about Greece

I know three people that "had to be in Southern cali" all three of them left within two years of moving in to the state! They all said the state would be a nice place to live if it not for the "fruits and nuts" that live/run the state.

I would like to visit the state but I do not think I could put up will all the Bull E36 M3 laws.

Paul B

The costs are also prohibitive, not to mention the traffic.

Very high state income tax rates.

oldsaw wrote: Greece has an honourable and deserved place in the annals of history.

Annals minus one 'n'

Well the Climate in CA is similiar to Greece, and the whole rest of the mediterrainian, maybe there is a connection, Aren't all of the EU countries with Debt Crisis(or impending Crisis) Greece, Italy, France, Spain, & Portugal, on the Mediterrainian?.

I thought Ireland was also on the bubble.

Paul B

Ireland is analogous to Michigan?

In reply to Donebrokeit:

Paul, Ireland is definitely part of the "cabal of PIGS"; Portugal, Italy/Ireland (take your pick), Greece and Spain.

France isn't doing much better; both Germany and the UK have implemented financial austerity programs. And these are countries some people tout as governmental/social examples of what the US should aspire to.