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Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy PowerDork
10/19/16 8:17 p.m.

I bought a long English cucumber today, for $1.69cdn. It was grown in Holland.

Who lost the money? Taxpayer, producer, laborer, shipper or grocery store? Don't tell me you can fly a cucumber here from Holland for $1.69 and make money.

petegossett
petegossett UltimaDork
10/19/16 8:24 p.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy:

And how did it get from England to Holland in the first place???

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo Mod Squad
10/19/16 8:25 p.m.

Maybe it was a stowaway

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
10/19/16 8:29 p.m.

Is it from the state of Holland or from the country of The Netherlands?

mad_machine
mad_machine MegaDork
10/19/16 8:30 p.m.

Cucumbers don't even have husks...

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
10/19/16 8:49 p.m.

Think about the size of said cucumber. Think about the size of a cargo carrier. Then think about several hundred of those being on a cargo ship. Potentially millions of cucumbers. Probably sold at like 12c each or some nonsense. There's a lot of room to pay a diesel steamer across the atlantic.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy PowerDork
10/19/16 8:51 p.m.
Dr. Hess wrote: Is it from the state of Holland or from the country of The Netherlands?

Label says "Product of Holland"

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy PowerDork
10/19/16 8:52 p.m.
mndsm wrote: Think about the size of said cucumber. Think about the size of a cargo carrier. Then think about several hundred of those being on a cargo ship. Potentially millions of cucumbers. Probably sold at like 12c each or some nonsense. There's a lot of room to pay a diesel steamer across the atlantic.

Can a cucumber last long enough to be shipped by sea, and then trucked most of the way across the continent?

captdownshift
captdownshift UberDork
10/19/16 8:53 p.m.

Bananas at .49 a lb across the country amazes me. The only way that bananas can be that cheap is that the entire banana importing business is a front to smuggle in narcotics.

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy PowerDork
10/19/16 8:57 p.m.

Holland, Michigan?

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
10/19/16 9:01 p.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote:
mndsm wrote: Think about the size of said cucumber. Think about the size of a cargo carrier. Then think about several hundred of those being on a cargo ship. Potentially millions of cucumbers. Probably sold at like 12c each or some nonsense. There's a lot of room to pay a diesel steamer across the atlantic.
Can a cucumber last long enough to be shipped by sea, and then trucked most of the way across the continent?

Fresh produce is shockingly resilient, especially when monsantoed all to E36 M3 for heartiness.

JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 MegaDork
10/19/16 9:13 p.m.
mad_machine wrote: Cucumbers don't even have husks...

Genius.
Well played!

chandlerGTi
chandlerGTi UberDork
10/19/16 9:42 p.m.
mndsm wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote:
mndsm wrote: Think about the size of said cucumber. Think about the size of a cargo carrier. Then think about several hundred of those being on a cargo ship. Potentially millions of cucumbers. Probably sold at like 12c each or some nonsense. There's a lot of room to pay a diesel steamer across the atlantic.
Can a cucumber last long enough to be shipped by sea, and then trucked most of the way across the continent?
Fresh produce is shockingly resilient, especially when monsantoed all to E36 M3 for heartiness.

Working on a truck once and the guy vented his load of apples; we had to vacate the shop. They spray them with some chemical crap for the trip then clean them off at a packing depot before it hits the store. It was nasty.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy PowerDork
10/19/16 10:14 p.m.

Another- I can go to any grocery store in this city and buy a fully cooked, fresh, hot chicken. For less than $10.

Laid, hatched, grown, killed, plucked, cleaned, shipped, cooked and packaged.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy PowerDork
10/19/16 10:15 p.m.
mndsm wrote: Potentially millions of cucumbers. Probably sold at like 12c each or some nonsense.

So, the grower, or the undocumented slave labour that picked it takes the bat up the ass, then.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy PowerDork
10/19/16 10:15 p.m.
petegossett wrote: In reply to Streetwiseguy: And how did it get from England to Holland in the first place???

Long English being a breed, not a location.

secretariata
secretariata Dork
10/19/16 10:22 p.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: So, the grower, or the undocumented slave labour that picked it takes the bat up the ass, then.

Why do you think they call it a "Long English"?...

HappyAndy
HappyAndy PowerDork
10/19/16 10:28 p.m.
mndsm wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote:
mndsm wrote: Think about the size of said cucumber. Think about the size of a cargo carrier. Then think about several hundred of those being on a cargo ship. Potentially millions of cucumbers. Probably sold at like 12c each or some nonsense. There's a lot of room to pay a diesel steamer across the atlantic.
Can a cucumber last long enough to be shipped by sea, and then trucked most of the way across the continent?
Fresh produce is shockingly resilient, especially when monsantoed all to E36 M3 for heartiness.

Some fruits and veggies are shipped in containers with a special gas that preserves the produce by displacing the oxygen, there by keeping it from ripening or decaying in transit.

I don't know how common the practice is, but it's definitely a thing.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
10/19/16 10:38 p.m.

Beats the hell out of me. My local store sells apples grown in Chili for $1.79/lb.

We grow so much food on this planet, it's a damn shame anyone in the world has to go hungry.

EvanR
EvanR SuperDork
10/20/16 12:51 a.m.

I feel the same way about Harbor Freight quite often. Things that are heavy and bulky (I'm thinking jack stands) are somehow made, packaged, shipped across an ocean, and trucked to your local store, then sell for $9.99.

Stuff from China on eBay in general. I just paid $0.99 for 5 keychain flashlights. Simple cheapies, to be sure, but somehow they are produced and shipped 10,000 miles across an ocean, all for the cost of 2 postage stamps. And don't forget that eBay and PayPal take out fees from that $0.99 sale!

EvanR
EvanR SuperDork
10/20/16 12:56 a.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: Another- I can go to any grocery store in this city and buy a fully cooked, fresh, hot chicken. For less than $10. Laid, hatched, grown, killed, plucked, cleaned, shipped, cooked and packaged.

$5 at Costco, but they admit they lose money on every sale.

Antihero
Antihero Reader
10/20/16 2:00 a.m.

I bought a small kukri knife called a biltong.

Somebody forged it by hand in nepal, sharpened it, carved a handle for it and made a labor intensive sheath for it. And what did I pay for this?

$9. Mind boggling

SnowMongoose
SnowMongoose SuperDork
10/20/16 2:28 a.m.
EvanR wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote: Another- I can go to any grocery store in this city and buy a fully cooked, fresh, hot chicken. For less than $10. Laid, hatched, grown, killed, plucked, cleaned, shipped, cooked and packaged.
$5 at Costco, but they admit they lose money on every sale.

Beat me to it.
Same story for our pumpkin pies, gets your asses in the store.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/20/16 7:20 a.m.

If you look at the wine area, you can see the same thing- and that there's a major glut of grapes in certain places in the world. Otherwise, how does one get a sub $10 bottle of wine from some area that's hard to get to, and on the other side of the world.

On the other hand, for many of our seasonal fruits and veggies- having them year round really takes our emphasis off of the great produce we have in our areas. One should not need to brag about getting Michigan strawberries or blueberries in given how much better they are than the Florida strawberries and the Chilean blueberries. But they do. For us, that and peaches, raspberries, tomatoes, greens, cherries, plums, corn, etc- when they are in season here, they are SO much better than what is imported from other places. But some stores never bother getting the better produce when it's in season.

But that's a different question.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
10/20/16 7:40 a.m.
secretariata wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote: So, the grower, or the undocumented slave labour that picked it takes the bat up the ass, then.
Why do you think they call it a "Long English"?...

Because someone is getting berked.

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