This amuses me

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-biggest-pussifications-schools/

Thought I would share this with y'all.

plz tell me they didn't ban chili dogs

because a parent was hit in the head by a soccer ball and it was so hard it made everyone within 10 miles retarded.

Thanks man. I needed that.

Great article. I like his style.

"Remember how you can choose not to go to work for a week and your boss will ask if there's a better time for you to do the work? Do you remember that? Do you? Hell no you don't, and neither does anyone else."

poopshovel wrote:

because a parent was hit in the head by a soccer ball and it was so hard it made everyone within 10 miles retarded.

Thanks man. I needed that.

Made me laugh out loud

That article gets me fired up. My kids haven't been able to have a PB&J sammich this year because there's a kid in the class with a peanut allergy. No nut products allowed anywhere in any of the classrooms he goes to. Really!? How many kids have dropped dead (or even had issues) because there was a sammich in the vacinity? I'm 40, I've NEVER heard of an issue like this. I've asked lots of people, nobody I know has EVER heard of an issue like this. It's like he said with the potato allergy, if you have the problem with it, just avoid it.
My wife said that some people have an allergy to peanuts, but it can be airborne or something. How the heck do you atomize peanut butter? Crap man, I have to heat the veggie oil in my car to 165 degrees for it to atomize, and it's a liquid to begin with.
ok, I'm done now.

Shocker. I saw New York mentioned repeatedly.

As a redneck I find banning stuff offensive...However, calling for a ban on banning things is hypocritical, which I also find offensive.

I propose a march on Washington "Together We Can Beat Stupidity"!

Uniform of red hats, white shirts, and blue 4 foot long 2x4s with stars!

Bruce

I get the thing with peanut allergy in grade school... that type of reaction happens so fast from so little contact and is deadly that I can see schools not wanting any exposure at all in younger kids who might be wandering around with peanut butter smeared all over their faces touching everything with it. I've seen a 5yr old go in to anaphylactic shock from a macadamia cupcake and not be able to breathe - scary E36 M3. I figure by middle-school kids ought to be able to bring a PBJ to school and not have a body count.

Our local school district didn't ban - they sent a note home that if your kid is allergic to "stuff" say so and parents could elect that they eat lunch at a separate area and have special care taken when there is a birthday party or something with baked goods so the parents could deal ahead of time and send him/her with safe stuff to eat for the party. Same idea as kids who need medication like insulin - parents can come in and help when they are young or have the nurse present if they cannot. I think that is a reasonable answer. It only effects the person with the issue and a small amount of impact to the school to provide a little help and some communication.

At the school where I taught, we asked that if some kid was bringing in food to share with the class, like cupcakes on a birthday or something, that they not put any nuts in them because there were kids in the class with nut allergies, and being the only one not having a cupcake would really suck. I can see not letting a school cafeteria cook stuff with peanuts sine there will probably be a kid who could have a bad reaction to it.

Outright banning peanuts at a school? That's just stupid. We didn't ban kids from bringing trail mix and PB&J in their own lunches.

wonder how I and all those older than I am made it through to adulthood ? there's absolutely no way I'd have made it through school without PB&J ... are the kids now-a-days just that much more Bob Costasified

egnorant wrote: As a redneck I find banning stuff offensive...However, calling for a ban on banning things is hypocritical, which I also find offensive. I propose a march on Washington "Together We Can Beat Stupidity"! Uniform of red hats, white shirts, and blue 4 foot long 2x4s with stars! Bruce

Led by "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan.

If your kid has food allergys AND you haven't taught them to be careful about what they eat.

Don't get really attached to them.

Trans_Maro wrote: If your kid has food allergys AND you haven't taught them to be careful about what they eat. Don't get really attached to them.

Wait you mean parents should parent their children? Thats so 1950s of you. Don't you know the state is there to do everything for you so you don't have to worry about such trivial things as teaching your children how to be responsible people?

i have a friend that's allergic to peanuts... the first person i've ever known with such an affliction.. i met him 5 years ago when i was 32 or so..

he says that this kind of stuff is just stupid.. he never made anyone else go out of their way to accommodate him in school- he just knew that he had an allergy that no one else had and kept it to himself. he never has a problem with people eating anything with peanuts in it around him- he just can't have any..

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: I get the thing with peanut allergy in grade school... that type of reaction happens so fast from so little contact and is deadly that I can see schools not wanting any exposure at all in younger kids who might be wandering around with peanut butter smeared all over their faces touching everything with it.

If that's the case, and it were really that much of a risk, there would be very few people with a nut allergy older than 7.

DrBoost wrote:

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: I get the thing with peanut allergy in grade school... that type of reaction happens so fast from so little contact and is deadly that I can see schools not wanting any exposure at all in younger kids who might be wandering around with peanut butter smeared all over their faces touching everything with it.

If that's the case, and it were really that much of a risk, there would be very few people with a nut allergy older than 7.

It isn't the actual risk - it is the ambulance chaser's award size if someone does die in your school. I have a nice 100yr old mahogany crib I can't sell because your baby might hang himself on it. It only takes one to E36 M3 up a rule book.

DrBoost wrote: That article gets me fired up. My kids haven't been able to have a PB&J sammich this year because there's a kid in the class with a peanut allergy. No nut products allowed anywhere in any of the classrooms he goes to. Really!? How many kids have dropped dead (or even had issues) because there was a sammich in the vacinity? I'm 40, I've NEVER heard of an issue like this. I've asked lots of people, nobody I know has EVER heard of an issue like this. It's like he said with the potato allergy, if you have the problem with it, just avoid it. My wife said that some people have an allergy to peanuts, but it can be airborne or something. How the heck do you atomize peanut butter? Crap man, I have to heat the veggie oil in my car to 165 degrees for it to atomize, and it's a liquid to begin with. ok, I'm done now.

Wow, such the reaction. Can't serve your kids sandwiches at home?? It's not as if there's not two days a week they don't go to school, let alone the ENTIRE SUMMER.

My brother was sent to the hospital just because they were cooking PB& Chocolate brownies. If you can smell PB, it's in the air- and that's enough.

alfadriver wrote: My brother was sent to the hospital just because they were cooking PB& Chocolate brownies. If you can smell PB, it's in the air- and that's enough.

I have seen the reaction - people who don't know, just don't know. That is some fast acting poison for some people. From normal to mostly dead in 15 seconds. Scary, scary E36 M3. Like hitting wasps with that 20' sprayer - they just berkeleying drop.

Like I said, I totally get why they ban it in some places. It's not like poison ivy where it just sucks to be you for a few days. I'm more interested in wtf they are doing to nut crops that made the percentage of allergies go thru the roof in my lifetime.

guess they also need to ban any outdoor activity for kids ( adults too ) since bee stings can kill just as quickly ... and the stings happen FAR more often than peanut allergy reactions

wbjones wrote: guess they also need to ban any outdoor activity for kids ( adults too ) since bee stings can kill just as quickly ... and the stings happen FAR more often than peanut allergy reactions

Exactly. I'm sure there a few people the world over that would drop dead at the very smell of peanut butter. But these sissies (the authorities, not the kids) act like it's certain death to see a nut product.
And Alfa, the reaction isn't just because of the PB&J sammiches. It's the wussification it goes along with. My son/daughter could fall while running and hit his/her head while running in such a way as to cause a mortal injury. Should I ban running? Should I stop your kids from running because it could knock my kid down and cause that same injury? No. Should we stop driving places? More kids are killed in car accidents than by rogue peanuts every year.
If there was a kid in class that had an allergy that would cause a severe reaction I'd have NO problem not sending nut products to school.

alfadriver wrote: My brother was sent to the hospital just because they were cooking PB& Chocolate brownies. If you can smell PB, it's in the air- and that's enough.

How is he? Was he able to make it through life without everyone around him having to be nut-free? I'm not being a prick (can't convey facial expressions, sincerity, or anything in text very well) but really want to know. It sounds like your brother is one of those with a REAL problem with nuts. How old is he? Did his school ban nut products?

Just wait 'til the schools get on the celiac disease bandwagon...

DrBoost wrote:

alfadriver wrote: My brother was sent to the hospital just because they were cooking PB& Chocolate brownies. If you can smell PB, it's in the air- and that's enough.

How is he? Was he able to make it through life without everyone around him having to be nut-free? I'm not being a prick (can't convey facial expressions, sincerity, or anything in text very well) but really want to know. It sounds like your brother is one of those with a REAL problem with nuts. How old is he? Did his school ban nut products?

All I hear in your posts is reasons to be pissed off at the school, since you kids can't get the way you want them to get. The school is managing their risks, especially now that lawsuits are more common, so it's easier to deal with an outright ban on nut products while a student is sensitive to it than it is to deal with the alternative.

Feed your kids PB at home and deal with it, for God's sake. It's not that bad.

You asked for examples of people who have a severe sensitivity to peanuts, I am related to such a person- so there's your example. done.

alfadriver wrote:

DrBoost wrote:

alfadriver wrote: My brother was sent to the hospital just because they were cooking PB& Chocolate brownies. If you can smell PB, it's in the air- and that's enough.

How is he? Was he able to make it through life without everyone around him having to be nut-free? I'm not being a prick (can't convey facial expressions, sincerity, or anything in text very well) but really want to know. It sounds like your brother is one of those with a REAL problem with nuts. How old is he? Did his school ban nut products?

All I hear in your posts is reasons to be pissed off at the school, since you kids can't get the way you want them to get. The school is managing their risks, especially now that lawsuits are more common, so it's easier to deal with an outright ban on nut products while a student is sensitive to it than it is to deal with the alternative. Feed your kids PB at home and deal with it, for God's sake. It's not that bad. You asked for examples of people who have a severe sensitivity to peanuts, I am related to such a person- so there's your example. done.

Well, sarcasm doesn't print well, so I understand why you see it that way. I agree with everything in that cracked article. The nut one hit home because half the school is on lock-down simply because two kids have allergies to nuts. One of the kid's moms told my wife it's not real bad. If he EATS nuts his throat gets irritated and itchy, we have no idea about the other one. So, yeah it does irritate me that everyone has to modify lunches and snacks when the kid could, uh, not eat them.
Yeah, the school is managing risks and lawyers rule the roost. Don't you see where that has led us, and where it's leading us? We're about the same age and we've no doubt had similar experiences in school. The difference is, your brother has an allergy. That's why I asked the questions you avoided. I asked them out of sincerity. You have actual experience on the other side of the fence I'm whining about.
Anyway, we'll agree to disagree. In your world the walls and floors will be lined with Nerf, nobody will move faster than a brisk walk, and the outdoors will be avoided. In my world, I tell my kids to avoid things that hurt them, and I'll make sure I teach them well when the situation is an actual danger.