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noddaz
noddaz Reader
10/10/12 2:28 p.m.
GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH PowerDork
10/10/12 2:35 p.m.

Good thing my cars don't have any airbags

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltraDork
10/10/12 2:38 p.m.
GameboyRMH wrote: Good thing my cars don't have any airbags

So far the vehicles that have airbags, are still OEM original. Now, if I could just get the Brazilian airbag cover for my Ranger still......

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
10/10/12 2:41 p.m.

In New York it's illegal to buy or install an airbag not in its original packaging.

Besides, I've seen me work. I have no doubt that I can touch a screwdriver to the wrong place and find myself in the back seat with a screwdriver in my head.

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas HalfDork
10/10/12 3:15 p.m.

Did somebody say "Brazilian airbag covers"?

cwh
cwh PowerDork
10/10/12 3:16 p.m.

You want to rely on THOSE to save your life?

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
10/10/12 3:19 p.m.

I was wondering when this might happen, there have been rumors for years. I once had a guy bring in a Rodeo Sport, fresh out of the body shop, air bag light on. That was because the airbag cover had been glued back on, the 'airbag' itself was shop rags stuffed in place. They told him we could turn the light off.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
10/10/12 3:20 p.m.
JohnInKansas wrote: Did somebody say "Brazilian airbag covers"?

Wanna bet those are fake airbags?

bravenrace
bravenrace PowerDork
10/10/12 3:57 p.m.

Almost like the majority of the vehicles I own that never had them. The horror!!!

bravenrace
bravenrace PowerDork
10/10/12 3:58 p.m.

In reply to Curmudgeon:

Not taking that bet. Hell, you can see the outline of the non-original equipment.

curtis73
curtis73 SuperDork
10/10/12 4:10 p.m.

Did anyone else LOL at this picture?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner MegaDork
10/10/12 4:15 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: In reply to Curmudgeon: Not taking that bet. Hell, you can see the outline of the non-original equipment.

There are tool marks too.

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer UltimaDork
10/10/12 5:09 p.m.
curtis73 wrote: Did anyone else LOL at this picture?

I just imagine that dummy saying "man, I'm berkeleyed..."

vwcorvette
vwcorvette Dork
10/10/12 5:47 p.m.

You know if you are belted in the car properly you don't need an airbag to save your face. Stop sitting so damn close to the wheel. Steering wheel mounted airbags don't save lives anymore than cars without them do.

BobOfTheFuture
BobOfTheFuture HalfDork
10/10/12 6:24 p.m.
curtis73 wrote: Did anyone else LOL at this picture?

Kinda looks like they are launching their old underwear at the driver

RoadRaceDart
RoadRaceDart Reader
10/10/12 7:17 p.m.
BobOfTheFuture wrote:
curtis73 wrote: Did anyone else LOL at this picture?
Kinda looks like they are launching their old underwear at the driver

Or they found a use for all the poisoned baby fourmula and defective wall board they had laying around....

Ranger50
Ranger50 UltraDork
10/10/12 7:19 p.m.
Curmudgeon wrote:
JohnInKansas wrote: Did somebody say "Brazilian airbag covers"?
Wanna bet those are fake airbags?

If I can touch them, they are real.

Appleseed
Appleseed PowerDork
10/10/12 7:25 p.m.

Is that airbag filled with broken glass (the car's not the girl's)?

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson SuperDork
10/11/12 7:58 a.m.
Ranger50 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
JohnInKansas wrote: Did somebody say "Brazilian airbag covers"?
Wanna bet those are fake airbags?
If I can touch them, they are real.

I tell my wife when she points out a fake set that I don't care if they are real or fake, I'm window shopping not handling the goods so it's all good to me

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson SuperDork
10/11/12 7:59 a.m.
vwcorvette wrote: You know if you are belted in the car properly you don't need an airbag to save your face. Stop sitting so damn close to the wheel. Steering wheel mounted airbags don't save lives anymore than cars without them do.

That's almost entirely wrong. Air bags do save lives in conjunction with seat belts. It's without seat belts they're an issue

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
10/11/12 9:07 a.m.

Air bags are called 'SRS' or Supplemental Restraint System. The reason airbags were beating the E36 M3 out of people is the original spec mandated by law was a bag had to slow an UNBELTED person.

In 1998, FMVSS 208 was amended to require dual front airbags, and de-powered, or second-generation airbags were also mandated. This was due to the injuries caused by first-generation airbags, though FMVSS 208 continues to require that bags be engineered and calibrated to be able to "save" the life of an unbelted 50th-percentile size and weight "male" crash test dummy.

Air bags are a 'feel good' device that is used to sell cars. That's why now there can be as many as 11 airbags in a car and they all share the same glaring flaw: they are only good ONCE which is useless in multiple impact collisions. They are also useless at highway sppeds, that's why you see all those roadside memorials.

The money and engineering put into airbags would be much better spent by strengthening the occupant 'cage', adding padding instead of airbags and improving seat and seat belt design to better hold the occupants in place. But that's hard to sell, so instead we get airbags.

GAHHHH.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson SuperDork
10/11/12 9:16 a.m.
Curmudgeon wrote: Air bags are called 'SRS' or Supplemental Restraint System. The reason airbags were beating the E36 M3 out of people is the original spec mandated by law was a bag had to slow an UNBELTED person. In 1998, FMVSS 208 was amended to require dual front airbags, and de-powered, or second-generation airbags were also mandated. This was due to the injuries caused by first-generation airbags, though FMVSS 208 continues to require that bags be engineered and calibrated to be able to "save" the life of an unbelted 50th-percentile size and weight "male" crash test dummy. Air bags are a 'feel good' device that is used to sell cars. That's why now there can be as many as 11 airbags in a car and they all share the same glaring flaw: they are only good ONCE which is useless in multiple impact collisions. They are also useless at highway sppeds, that's why you see all those roadside memorials. The money and engineering put into airbags would be much better spent by strengthening the occupant 'cage', adding padding instead of airbags and improving seat and seat belt design to better hold the occupants in place. But that's hard to sell, so instead we get airbags. GAHHHH.

Wow, you really set on beliving anything mandated has to be bad aren't you.

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas HalfDork
10/11/12 9:18 a.m.

I'm with Cur on this one. I don't think they're bad per se, but I don't think they're all they're made out to be by manufacturers and John Q Public.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
10/11/12 9:19 a.m.

After a heated legal debate, I replaced Curmudgeon's airbag with one of these:

foxtrapper
foxtrapper PowerDork
10/11/12 9:30 a.m.

Well, how many airbags do you see on the racetrack? That should tell you something.

Curmudgeon has a point or two here.

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