The 5 series GT has been an abysmal sales failure. As a former BMW Touring owner, I can't imagine EVER(!) buying a GT. Yuck.
The 5 series GT has been an abysmal sales failure. As a former BMW Touring owner, I can't imagine EVER(!) buying a GT. Yuck.
Looks like the X6 but even uglier if that's possible.
second that ^
Yes, if the X6 got raped by a Prius.
They only made 750 or so of these because they thought no one would want them and ended the production run with every copy sold before it was made.
Then... they make a pile of hideous abominations like that thing.
They have lost their way.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: They only made 750 or so of these because they thought no one would want them and ended the production run with every copy sold before it was made.Then... they make a pile of hideous abominations like that thing. They have lost their way.
What is that??
Makes me wanna go find an E34 wagon, just as a protest. Not that I could afford that "GT" thing in the first place..
I'll have to ask that all y'all pardon me..I'm a VW guy for 20yrs now, I'm used to "my team" making stupid decicions about what to send (or not) to the US. There's a reason all my berkeleying cars are 20yrs old. 
dyintorace wrote:Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: They only made 750 or so of these because they thought no one would want them and ended the production run with every copy sold before it was made. Then... they make a pile of hideous abominations like that thing. They have lost their way.What is that??
BMW 1 Series
Ha. Knew that car would sink like a lead brick when i saw one on the lot a few months back. That car is still there BTW.
I had one as a service loaner once. OMG that twin turbo V8 is a monster and it handled like nothing that huge had any right to do. I'd never pay my money for one though.
RexSeven wrote:dyintorace wrote: What is that??BMW 1 Series
More precisely, the 1 Series M coupe. They're building more, though.
So BMW built an Accord Crosstour? Who knew. Hope I never have to see one in person. I can laugh out loud when I see the Honda version, but a BMW based one would make me sad.
I'd rather just have a 5 series wagon.
1.) I don't know what possessed BMW to think that the 5GT would be an "acceptable" substitute for a Touring in a market (the U.S.) that has a LOOONNNG history of shunning hatchbacks. I guess they figured we lapped up the X6 like we were hungry castaways with our first meal in weeks?
2.) I don't understand why folks think this is such a bad car...or ugly, to me it looks like a hatchback 5.
integraguy wrote: 2.) I don't understand why folks think this is such a bad car...or ugly, to me it looks like a hatchback 5.
From the B pillars back, it has the profile of a Prius, only without any rear visibility.
good.. one more ugly trucklet off of the streets. I hope BMW gets some sense soon
Have you seen the next 1-series? Blech.
integraguy wrote: 1.) I don't know what possessed BMW to think that the 5GT would be an "acceptable" substitute for a Touring in a market (the U.S.) that has a LOOONNNG history of shunning hatchbacks.
Because they figured that anything that smells like a station wagon is sales-office poison in the US, and if there was enough "plausible deniability" in the 5GT crossover/sport activity vehicle/whatever name BS then idiot consumers wouldn't notice that this entire class of vehicles both sucks and blows at the same time.
Hey, it's worked for other manufacturers.
As recently as six months ago, BMW was planning a similar "GT" hatchback version of the next M3: http://tractioninc.tumblr.com/post/1374173565/
LOLWTFBMW
I really don't understand America's hatetred towards station wagons, they are infinitely better than anything similar (minivans, crossovers, unibody SUVs, etc.)
e_pie wrote: I really don't understand America's hatetred towards station wagons, they are infinitely better than anything similar (minivans, crossovers, unibody SUVs, etc.)
Neither do I, but the stigma of station wagons led directly to the rise of the minivan, which led even more promptly into the stigma of minivans giving rise to the typical SUV driver.
Duke wrote: Hey, it's worked for other manufacturers.
Can't think of any that the "4 door large fastback" has worked for, though.
MadScientistMatt wrote:Duke wrote: Hey, it's worked for other manufacturers.Can't think of any that the "4 door large fastback" has worked for, though.
It's apparently successful enough that Honda/Acura, Audi, Infiniti, and others have spent the money to make them.
Duke wrote:e_pie wrote: I really don't understand America's hatetred towards station wagons, they are infinitely better than anything similar (minivans, crossovers, unibody SUVs, etc.)Neither do I, but the stigma of station wagons led directly to the rise of the minivan, which led even more promptly into the stigma of minivans giving rise to the typical SUV driver.
And now that's leading to "crossovers". Essentially any practical vehicle is seen as "uncool" and so the exact for a practical vehicle takes morphs every 10 years or so. None of the new forms have become more useful than the station wagon for most people, SUV's being particularly bad in that regard.
njansenv wrote: Have you seen the next 1-series?
No I have not seen the next version but just the other day I came across a black 135i convertable. In person, I really liked the size. It reminded me of e30 proportions.
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