pheller
pheller UltimaDork
11/21/20 1:17 p.m.

I often find myself in situations where I need to remove materials around the ouside of a tube, like maybe a few MM, and sandpaper isn't cutting it. 

However, often these tubes are rather long, so they wouldn't fit in a mini-lathe. 

Are there tools that can be used with a drill or grinder that function similarly to a lathe, but are more portable and easily stored? 

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) MegaDork
11/21/20 1:27 p.m.

Wood lathe and a grinder?  Warning I'm not the safest guy.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
11/21/20 1:47 p.m.

What materiel are you removing from a tube?  Softer than the tube material?  Cut a slice fore to aft down the side and peel it off?

Jesse Ransom (FFS)
Jesse Ransom (FFS) UltimaDork
11/21/20 3:53 p.m.

914Driver, I think the "s" might be a typo, and he's just removing material, as in removing wall thickness from tubing. pheller, confirm/refute?

A better description of the tubing, dimensions of the cut, required finish and accuracy... would help at guessing what either exists or could be fabricobbled.

Jesse Ransom (FFS)
Jesse Ransom (FFS) UltimaDork
11/21/20 4:00 p.m.

Also, the thread title says ID, but the description is OD... I'm assuming you mean OD since that's what's spelled out more thoroughly.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
11/22/20 7:00 a.m.

Sounds like you need a lathe, so you may have to fabricobble a lathe like way of doing it by hand.  Drill on one end, steady rest on the other (another drill maybe?) and some careful angle grinder work where necessary?

Toyman01 (Moderately Supportive Dude)
Toyman01 (Moderately Supportive Dude) MegaDork
11/22/20 7:12 a.m.

If you don't need precision, OD could be as simple as a couple of rolling stands, a grinder or belt sander, and a helper to spin the tube. If you need to do a bunch of them, a drill or gear motor to spin the tube would make it a one man job and probably give better results. 

For ID, a cylinder or brake hone would probably do the trick. 

 

Patrick (Forum Supporter)
Patrick (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
11/22/20 7:40 a.m.

Before i got my lathe i used to clamp my belt sander to a surface and use that.  Obviously they also make sanders for that and i have one but my old makita hand held one is way better than the $58 chinese benchtop one

FieroReinke
FieroReinke New Reader
11/22/20 7:53 a.m.

For soft material I have chucked it up into my drill press and sanded off the OD.  If it is long you can fabricate a bearing that can be secured to the Drill press plate.   

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
11/22/20 8:02 a.m.

Guess I do better with pictures .....

pheller
pheller UltimaDork
11/22/20 10:58 a.m.

OK wow I worded my original post terribly. 

 

What I mean to say is: 

 

I need some way of turning down the OUTSIDE DIAMETER of Metal Tubing.

For example, I've been installing some new ceiling fans. I wanted to use the overly short supplied downrod with the downrods I have currently. The current downrod was only a MM away from fitting inside the new downrod. I needed some way of making it smaller. This isn't the first time I've encounter this problem, sometimes with bikes, sometimes with other projects. I just need some way of removing metal from the ouside of a tube, and sanding isn't aggressive enough. 

 

Also, I don't have any "big" equipment like a drill press or what not. All of my equipment is portable and I want to keep it that way. 

pheller
pheller UltimaDork
11/22/20 11:04 a.m.

I found something that might work.

Of course the downside is that it's pretty short. I sometimes work with long pieces, sometimes that are bent. I would need some way of "holding" the end not being turned down. 

Purple Frog (Forum Supporter)
Purple Frog (Forum Supporter) Reader
11/22/20 11:05 a.m.

Clamp a belt sander to the top of a workbench... lock it to the 'on' position, grab the tube with two hands and spin it...

Of course I would probably crank up the MIG, grinder, and then rattle can the result.  wink

preach
preach Reader
11/23/20 12:22 a.m.

We have a machine at work that clamps to the outside of the tube and a machine head spins around the OD cutting the whole od. We try to dial it in to 0.00025-0.0005. Not bad for a portable machine.

WAY too expensive for your application though.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa SuperDork
11/23/20 12:57 a.m.

Honestly, for that little of a measurement you could get by with a file and then sand the highspots after

fasted58
fasted58 MegaDork
11/23/20 1:10 a.m.
Toyman01 (Moderately Supportive Dude) said:

If you don't need precision, OD could be as simple as a couple of rolling stands, a grinder or belt sander, and a helper to spin the tube. If you need to do a bunch of them, a drill or gear motor to spin the tube would make it a one man job and probably give better results. 

For ID, a cylinder or brake hone would probably do the trick. 

 

This.

Back in my pipe fitting days I used two sets of rollers to roll the pipe while grinding flush a flame cut pipe end and then bevel for welding, typically 4-6" pipe. Pneumatic sander w/ 7" 24 grit disc. Position the disc to grind and spin the pipe at the same time (it absolutely will spin on rollers), no helper needed. Short learning curve but once figured out and it's off to the races. I could match the pipe mill beveled end w/ that grinder.

I think OP could do similar w/ a set of rollers and disc sander but for the OD. Make gauge for the required OD. Grind/ spin tube down to gauge diameter. Mark oversize, grind there and on and on.

I truly believe it's doable. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) MegaDork
11/23/20 9:29 a.m.

File.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
11/23/20 10:18 a.m.
pheller said:

For example, I've been installing some new ceiling fans. I wanted to use the overly short supplied downrod with the downrods I have currently. The current downrod was only a MM away from fitting inside the new downrod. I needed some way of making it smaller.

Alternately, is there enough wall thickness on the new downrod that you could drill it out, so the old downrod will fit inside?

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