slefain wrote: I on the other hand am going to try a new tactic. Using a borrowed Manheim account login I have been checking wholesale prices. I already have a broker who is willing to buy whatever car I want from the Manheim site, for a fee. I'm going to find a car I want locally and go look at it. I'm then going to tell the dealer that I'm going to buy the car through Manheim, but maybe we can make a deal. I'll pay the dealer the wholesale price he was asking for on Manheim, plus the fee I was going to pay the broker (half the fee actually, but how will they know). They will be in the spot of selling the car for the wholesale price to a broker, or selling it to me and making a few more bucks. I should still come out ahead even at wholesale "buy it now" pricing. Or they could tell me to pound sand, but it couldn't hurt to try.
Didn't have a login, but a friend's uncle went to the auctions, and would let "friends" tag along. If you saw something you liked (and could pay for), he would bid up to your maximum, and if he won it, it was $200 plus his DMV fees (since the auction house filled in the title with his info).
