914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
4/11/23 8:19 a.m.
Jerry
Jerry PowerDork
4/11/23 8:52 a.m.

I remember discussing this in nuclear power school in '86.

Slippery
Slippery PowerDork
4/11/23 9:23 a.m.

That was a very good read. Thanks. 

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
4/11/23 11:28 a.m.

If you know anything about submarines, you hear the name Thresher, and you pay attention.  The name carries weight.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) UberDork
4/11/23 11:33 a.m.

The story of the Scorpion is even stranger,

For the record they renamed the class of subs Sturgeon after the loss of the Thresher.  My first sub was Sturgeon class.  

iansane
iansane Dork
4/11/23 12:04 p.m.

Whoa. I can't imagine being in a sub, basically in freefall with no power and no means of resurfacing. Terrifying. At least the implosion is faster than the human brain can perceive.

1SlowVW
1SlowVW Dork
4/11/23 12:56 p.m.

In reply to iansane :

I read that in the article about being too fast to process. I don't doubt it's true but I assume that was published to offer some sort of solace to the family members of the crew. 

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
4/11/23 1:16 p.m.

That's a good read

Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter)
Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/11/23 2:19 p.m.

Thanks for the link, my mom's dad was on the design team. cool

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
4/11/23 2:29 p.m.

I can't believe they couldn't Emergency Blow, but I was only 10 years old.

I was on SSN-679, Sturgeon class boat.  The Scorpion went down because of no air dryers in the compressed air.  Moisture around the big ball valves kept them from closing once on the surface.

Then I heard about inconel parts, someone besides me really knows.... 

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
4/11/23 2:33 p.m.

In every incedent, in hindsight, you get no less than 5 warnings.

Also a good read:

stroker
stroker PowerDork
4/11/23 2:46 p.m.

I have vague recollections of the event as a four-year old.  TV news, etc.  

Antihero
Antihero PowerDork
4/11/23 2:59 p.m.

Interesting!

 

Admittedly I never really was a military history guy but I've been reading more articles since we got back from Pearl Harbor.

 

A few of my family served in the Navy too and I recently found out I had a Great Uncle that served on the Skipjack. 

preach (dudeist priest)
preach (dudeist priest) SuperDork
4/11/23 4:49 p.m.

My yard sounds an extended whistle at 0918 every 4/10. The same yard that mad the Thresher. I am a SubSafe Outside Machinist Supervisor. 

EDIT: Some of you are the same age as my uncle. He spent time as Command Master Chief of Pearl Harbor and spent 30 years in the Silent Service. Master Chief David Atkins.

EDIT: Also if you are a history buff read Blind Man's Bluff. Fantastic book.

I have posted this before when we got to talking subs but this is definitely the thread for it:

 

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
4/11/23 6:43 p.m.

I remember when this happened.  It wasn't until a few years ago I read the details about it.  

11GTCS
11GTCS Dork
4/11/23 8:36 p.m.

The loss of Thresher was still very much on the minds of everyone that I worked with at EB in the mid 80’s.  If anything good came from their sacrifice it was the Subsafe program.  

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) UberDork
4/11/23 9:42 p.m.

I was a subsafe qualified QA inspector for engine room work.  I had a lot of "collateral" duties.  It once led to a fantastic discussion with the Captain who's goal was to go to sea on time.....  

I liked the work and the job, it's the Navy that I wasn't too thrilled about.  Life isn't too dissimilar now.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) UberDork
4/12/23 11:54 a.m.

In reply to preach (dudeist priest) :

I went through the other path to submarines than the person in the video.  He went through sub school.  I went through the nuclear path.  Everything we were told was a bit different from what he was told.  And little of it matches this evidence.  
 

Many in this forum have doubted my skepticism and statements about being lied to even scammed by people in charge.  This video should help recalibrate you.  We are lied to daily and your news isn't factual.  It is propaganda.  You want I put it in terms you might finally get.....  the phrase "need to know" governs security.  And I'm the eyes of the decision makers you don't need to know anything.  Heck I don't know much, but I do know lies and deception are the norm not an outlier.  

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
4/12/23 2:09 p.m.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) UberDork
4/12/23 4:13 p.m.

In reply to Appleseed :

You might find the ostrich with its head on the ground meme equally appropriate.  I guess "we were all lied t0" is totally cool with you.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
4/12/23 8:59 p.m.

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) :

What would you have me do?

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) UberDork
4/12/23 9:09 p.m.
Appleseed said:

In reply to AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) :

What would you have me do?

Honestly, it'd be a huge step toward repairing the damage being done to society if people cared more about the truth than getting thumbs up on social media posts.  We have it in our ability to solve every problem facing humanity, but it begins by getting to the truth.  If someone lies to you, stop supporting them and call it out for what it is.  If everyone in our country started doing that, things would get better for everyone a whole lot quicker than you can imagine.

 

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