FranktheTank
FranktheTank Reader
4/9/13 1:08 p.m.

My 70 F100 is up and running. However my vacuum assisted brakes are not doing so well with the .598 lift hydraulic cam. Frankly it's terrifying. I have enough vacuum for the trans.

I can mount a regular old vacuum canister or even a chrome Jegs one, however space is limited and my engine bay is cluttered with wiring and hoses.

The question is... Can I just put an air compressor check valve on a screw type 3/8 in line fuel filter (gutted or not) in line and use that for a capacity booster. Or am I missing something?

Just wanting a little feedback.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH UltimaDork
4/9/13 1:18 p.m.

There's no magic to it, it's just a container with a check valve on it, intake on one side and brake booster (and other vacuum-powered stuff) on the other. As long as the fuel filter doesn't collapse it'll work. Volume is important though, an inline fuel filter might be too small.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper PowerDork
4/9/13 1:22 p.m.

Might want to go to a junkyard and shop around for the vacuum pumps used on turbo bricks and the like. Probably can get one cheap. darn effective.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH UltimaDork
4/9/13 1:23 p.m.

^ good idea, it's compact, and you won't have to worry about vacuum being depleted due to extended low-vac intake conditions or having a reservoir the size of a teacup.

FranktheTank
FranktheTank Reader
4/9/13 1:31 p.m.

Electric vacuum pumps are 280.00 new and just as big as a regular canister plus they add another hot wire and ground. If they were smaller it may be a little more viable. Not too many turbo buicks in the junkyard. I'd have spotted it by now. If you see any used online I may look harder into it.

Fuel filters for fuel injected/diesel applications would never collapse. They are steel. I was thinking 8oz capacity may get me by but wasn't sure. I have spare check valves for my air compressor.

Thank you for quick responses. I have a 4 wheeler to fix, truck bed welding then trailering to Evansville and driving my Met to Nashville in store before I get to this project.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
4/9/13 1:46 p.m.

I'm pretty sure i paid something like $35 for the vacuum canister i run on the Escort for similar reasons.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
4/9/13 1:51 p.m.

Can you do away with the booster and use a manual setup from an earlier truck or a set of Tilton/Wilwood double hung pedals from a wrecked circle track car?

Maybe just a longer pedal... or move the pivot to add leverage, etc?

iceracer
iceracer UberDork
4/9/13 6:12 p.m.
Swank Force One wrote: I'm pretty sure i paid something like $35 for the vacuum canister i run on the Escort for similar reasons.

ZX2's have a nice small one for the heater doors. Behind the glove box.

Jcamper
Jcamper New Reader
4/9/13 11:00 p.m.

Could you seal up a frame rail and use it as vacuum storage?

FranktheTank
FranktheTank Reader
4/9/13 11:05 p.m.

http://gordsgarage.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/working-in-a-vacuum/

I just found a very interesting twist on a vacuum canister. It is a single port canister with a vacuum line 'T' I don't believe they are utilizing a check valve but I believe that would round out such a unit nicely.

Thursday when I buy a battery and a cpl 4 wheeler tires I plan to get a vacuum gauge. If I'm pulling 13 plus ill put on this canister. If not I will be getting an electric unit. Probably off an Audi or Saab and hard wiring it.

I like the frame idea but I doubt I'd Seal the whole thing. However I'm not above stashing a pipe in there with this single port design.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper PowerDork
4/10/13 4:43 a.m.
FranktheTank wrote: Electric vacuum pumps are 280.00 new and just as big as a regular canister

I've no doubt you can find massive vacuum pumps that do cost upwards of three hundred dollars, like you say. That's why I said go to a junkyard and shop for ones from like a turbo brick and such. They are small, about the size of a coffee cup, and cost in the neighborhood of $20-40.

If doing a hot and ground wire really are daunting, on that I can't help, other than to say it's really not that bad a job running those two wires.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
4/10/13 9:31 a.m.

This is what i used, with a vacuum gauge from Summit.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-X7-UNIVERSAL-CHEVY-BLACK-VACUUM-RESERVOIR-KIT-/271184692029?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3f23de033d

Whole setup including gauge ran me about $45, with no fab work, and no time invested other than clicking a mouse button.

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