Vegans - Why so serious? :jokerface:

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Not too long ago, I had eaten dinner at my inlaws and my SIL (who is vegan) was helping me clean up and I asked her to grab a stack of dirty plates and she said no because meat had been on them.

I was in a long and serious relationship with a girl who was vegetarian and vegan (off-and-on) for animal-rights reasons. One year, for my birthday, she made me beef tips.

To this day, I haven't had beef tips that were as well prepared.

N Sperlo wrote: Three out of 10000 forum members approve of her handling your meat.

I don't think we'll ever have an accurate tally unless we make this a poll.

1988RedT2 wrote:

N Sperlo wrote: Three out of 10000 forum members approve of her handling your meat.

I don't think we'll ever have an accurate tally unless we make this a poll.

They really don't need our approval!

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote:

dculberson wrote:

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Not too long ago, I had eaten dinner at my inlaws and my SIL (who is vegan) was helping me clean up and I asked her to grab a stack of dirty plates and she said no because meat had been on them.

Look at it a little differently: would this infuriate you if the person was Jewish and they refused to touch the plates because they had pork on them? I don't see why this is an issue, honestly. She wouldn't touch the plates with meat on them - that's her having boundaries and stating them clearly. That's not her forcing anything on you whatsoever. Like most things like this it comes down to fear of the other, she's different from you and any time she expresses that difference it frightens you. Your reaction turns to annoyance.

Well in my SILs case, I don't see it that way. And it has nothing to do with me being scared of change. She uses it as an excuse to not do something I think. By saying that you can't touch something because there was meat on it or in it or around it or within the vicinity of it gets annoying after a while to other folks who don't follow that lifestyle. She still lives in her parents house and when they eat, she eats at a different time, because they still eat meat. But when it's a "family meal" it becomes a clusterberkeley half the time. She can't clean up anything after dinner or she can't take out the trash. It's always something new. Is it annoying? Hell yes. Does it mean I'm scared of change? No. My SIL is also what I like to call a "Vegan Hypocrite". While she claims to be a Vegan, she still eats cheese and products with gelatin in it. She's more of a vegatarian but still claims to be vegan.

Next time hand her some rubber gloves and tell her to get to work.

Ultimately, her parents needed to instill in her at a much younger age that unless she's willing to prepare the food herself, she should be prepared to eat what is served or go hungry.

If you want to be an shiny happy person, you can remind her whenever she starts up with the "meatisdadevils" BS, that she can stick that BS in the same place her milk and cheese come from.

My wife is vegetarian and she doesn't like to have her food contaminated with meat, etc. she's also an awesome cook and not an shiny happy person about it. So if she knows we're going somewhere to eat that she needs to check the menu or ask the host what they are serving and either plan to eat what is served, go somewhere else or bring her own food to eat. Simple, honest, personal responsibility.

I think the entire planet needs to lighten the berk up about the accommodation they expect everybody ELSE to make for moral, religious, and other lifestyle criteria they set FOR THEMSELVES.

I never understood the mindset of the political vegan. Dietary constraints aside, not supporting the death of animals doesn't make sense to me.

In my mind, if you think all animal life is sacred, then you can't take vaccines, you can't use dino oil, you can't have lumber or materials that impact animal environs. If you choose not to eat meat, do the bacteria in your digestive system requiring those proteins die? Wouldn't you be killing a bunch of microscopic animal in lieu of one large one?

It's an absurd argument to attack an absurd position. Now if you were complaining about the wasting of meat - that is something else. The treatment of livestock - again a different discussion. But then home grown animals would be ok to eat.

The only discussion I can sort of sympathize with is the view that livestock take a large amount of resources that man could eat for a more efficient use of materials. But I don't like the taste of grass.

Johnboyjjb wrote: The treatment of livestock - again a different discussion. But then home grown animals would be ok to eat.

I think the treatment of livestock is a ridiculous reason to not eat meat but to each his own.

dculberson wrote:

SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Not too long ago, I had eaten dinner at my inlaws and my SIL (who is vegan) was helping me clean up and I asked her to grab a stack of dirty plates and she said no because meat had been on them.

I don't see why this is an issue, honestly. She wouldn't touch the plates with meat on them - that's her having boundaries and stating them clearly.

not sure I can agree with dculberson here.... she was helping in the cleaning up .... I have to assume no one was holding a gun to her head and forcing her to do this ..... part of helping to clean up is getting the dirty dishes to the sink .... regardless of what was on them ..... she knew there had been meat on the plates .. she shouldn't have offered to help clean up if she couldn't do the job

We are eating mostly vegetarian now (the last few months), not out of preachy political views, but for the health reasons. There is quite a bit of solid evidence linking animal products with certain cancers, heart disease, etc.

I'm not an eco-terrorist or anything, however, I do think we ought to try to at least not screw up this rock more than we have to. It's also pretty staggering to learn the amount of resources it takes to produce a lb of meat, especially beef. The amount of grain and water is mind blowing.

But if others want to, that's fine.

I'm not going to quit driving a truck everyday or having a 2nd car to take to the track. So I just waste resources in a different way.

1988RedT2 wrote:

N Sperlo wrote: Three out of 10000 forum members approve of her handling your meat.

I don't think we'll ever have an accurate tally unless we make this a poll.

I have not figured out if you can arrange a poll on here, but I also approve of said handling of meat. But I would love to learn how to set up a poll on here, for an accurate tallying of the vote, as it were.

Admins? Will you be setting up said poll on the handling of said meat? Approval vs. Disapproval?

I am showing this to my wife and if this gets me laid or anything "special" I'll go vegan for a month. But it has to be because of this and not wine and/or the fact its Saturday...

I handle my meat daily. I'm quite good at it.