Wait a minute, Aliens set up shop on the Moon?

I didn't see the beginning of this show so if there was an Orsen Wells type disclaimer, I missed it. I was flipping back and forth between this and Red Bull's Wing Suit slalom racing.

The show's (inventor-director?) documents buildings on the moon, shows a crater being reconfigured and coughs up NASA people that have air brushed photos. It's not like the nut job down the street needs something to push him over the edge.

Fiction, fact or fantasy?

Yes, I can help; just let me walk through your engine room.

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/aliens-moon-tv-show-adds-weird-ufo-twists-apollo-tales-n159806

Eh, some people will never believe man went to the moon, while others will always believe that we weren't the first ones there.

When people start grasping at straws to justify their beliefs is when they really start looking like a bunch of crazies - go ahead and believe what you want(as long as it doesn't drive you toward hate/harm against others), but please don't feel the need to prove you're right...I already know the quantum-leap in automobile performance over the last 15-years is 100% proof that alien technology is being put to good use.

petegossett wrote: I already *know* the quantum-leap in automobile performance over the last 15-years is 100% proof that alien technology is being put to good use.

A gift from some friends from out of town.... - - K

petegossett wrote: I already *know* the quantum-leap in automobile performance over the last 15-years is 100% proof that alien technology is being put to good use.

You jest, but look at the difference in cars between, say, 1940 and 1955. Or 1955 and 1970. Or 1970 and 1985, or 1985 and 2000, or pretty much any 15 year window you may choose (1920 and 1935?)

Technology moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around every once in a while, you're going to miss it...

The_Jed wrote:

Am I missing the joke?

If humans are the highest level life form in the universe it is surely a disappointing place... we're still debating who pees where.

Was the show hosted by Jesse Ventura?

HappyAndy wrote:

The_Jed wrote:

Am I missing the joke?

Drake Equation: figures out how many inhabitable planets in the universe there are. Well played Jed!

fasted58 wrote: If humans are the highest level life form in the universe it is surely a disappointing place... we're still debating who pees where.

The other intelligent beings of the universe wouldn't come here voluntarily, we are the Somalia of the universe.

Knurled wrote:

petegossett wrote: I already *know* the quantum-leap in automobile performance over the last 15-years is 100% proof that alien technology is being put to good use.

You jest, but look at the difference in cars between, say, 1940 and 1955. Or 1955 and 1970. Or 1970 and 1985, or 1985 and 2000, or pretty much any 15 year window you may choose (1920 and 1935?) Technology moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around every once in a while, you're going to miss it...

Good point. It's interesting to look at each of those periods & see what happened.

The period from 1940-1955 was interrupted by the war, so there weren't many automotive developments beyond power brakes/steering.

1955-1970 saw increases in power, but for the most part that was due to increases in displacement. Sure there were a couple efforts at turbocharging & early mechanical fuel injection, but neither were a huge success.

1970-1985 definitely saw some developments in technology, but unfortunately most of it was in reaction to the oil/gas crisis, though it did pave the way for things to come.

1985-2000 I'd say OBD I/II was at the top of the list for new developments, and certainly allowed for increased performance as a result of better data.

However from 2000-present things have gone crazy!!!

Someone needs a punch from Buzz Aldrin.

WWMAGA

(Warning: video contains adult language, not forum code words. But funny nevertheless).

Your scientists have yet to discover how neural networks create self-consciousness, let alone how the human brain processes two-dimensional retinal images into the three-dimensional phenomenon known as perception. Yet you somehow brazenly declare that seeing is believing!

I know some 5th graders who could Photoshop better than THAT image...

petegossett wrote: Good point. It's interesting to look at each of those periods & see what happened. The period from 1940-1955 was interrupted by the war, so there weren't many automotive developments beyond power brakes/steering. 1955-1970 saw increases in power, but for the most part that was due to increases in displacement. Sure there were a couple efforts at turbocharging & early mechanical fuel injection, but neither were a huge success.

1955 also had cars that were by and large riveted frame construction, all manner of bizarre steering setups (ever look under a Studebaker? or a Hillman?), pushrods were just starting to replace flatheads in grand scale, suspensions were mostly kingpins and bushings...

In 1970 we had fully welded frames, a few unibodies, 4 link rear suspensions, ball joints everywhere, power brakes common if not standard, disk brakes on the front of most cars as optional if not standard, automatics in everything, automatic chokes that actually worked, alternators instead of generators...

In 1985, admittedly the US automakers were mostly coasting on what they had designed in the late 60s/early 70s, but we did had a lot of cars with primitive EFI, more unibodies, a lot more transverse front drive, a lot more aluminum engine castings, the beginnings of unitized accessory brackets instead of a collection of discrete components... And this ignoring all of the work that the European and Japanese automakers had done in that time, of course.

Is this Richard Hogland, the "Face on Mars" guy? He was making some claims about buildings and glass domes on the moon back in the 90s.

The Ralph Nader of Geekdom?

HappyAndy wrote:

fasted58 wrote: If humans are the highest level life form in the universe it is surely a disappointing place... we're still debating who pees where.

The other intelligent beings of the universe wouldn't come here voluntarily, we are the Somalia of the universe.

It's more like the Comedy Channel.

"Honey , I had a crap day at work and need a good laugh. Let's see what the Earthlings are doing today."

Probably the same guy who found that mermaid on the beach.

They completely missed the moon nazis: https://youtu.be/Py_IndUbcxc

Sorry about that, that was part of our gravitational field infrastructure that wiped out the dinosaurs. Xorrob was in charge of blowing that, guess he got drunk instead. Nothing to see here carry on.

There are incredible, legitimate, mysteries on the moon. This isn't.

petegossett wrote:

Knurled wrote:

petegossett wrote: I already *know* the quantum-leap in automobile performance over the last 15-years is 100% proof that alien technology is being put to good use.

You jest, but look at the difference in cars between, say, 1940 and 1955. Or 1955 and 1970. Or 1970 and 1985, or 1985 and 2000, or pretty much any 15 year window you may choose (1920 and 1935?) Technology moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around every once in a while, you're going to miss it...

Good point. It's interesting to look at each of those periods & see what happened. The period from 1940-1955 was interrupted by the war, so there weren't many automotive developments beyond power brakes/steering. 1955-1970 saw increases in power, but for the most part that was due to increases in displacement. Sure there were a couple efforts at turbocharging & early mechanical fuel injection, but neither were a huge success. 1970-1985 definitely saw some developments in technology, but unfortunately most of it was in reaction to the oil/gas crisis, though it did pave the way for things to come. 1985-2000 I'd say OBD I/II was at the top of the list for new developments, and certainly allowed for increased performance as a result of better data. However from 2000-present things have gone crazy!!!

Then the Aliens landed else where long ago! Just because America took the sledge hammer approach to developing cars because resources were cheap and corners were scares, the rest of the world had some pretty advanced cars long long before the same technology was adopted here.

Disclaimer note before someone thinks I'm bashing American It's really just that desperation being the mother of invention meant that the rest of the developed world was seriously butt berkeleyed by the was and really had to scratch around for resources which all cost more over there. In comparison America made out like bandits. don't forget the UK only finished paying the USA back for it's first world war loans about three years ago.