Well, THAT was creepy (iPhone)

RevRico wrote: In reply to Nick (picaso) Comstock: ....... all I see is thought control. Public shaming of differing opinions, political fear mongering.......

How is this different from all of know history? People have been telling people how to think and shaming them for being different for all of human history. Every grout has been trying to push it's version of superstition, dress code, style, politics etc forever. Roman's fed Christians to the Lions, then got hip with the zombie Jew and persecuted any non belivers. Don't you dare have left leaning views during McCarthyism. Don't you dare have long hair in the 60's or your a degenerate. He'll, look at the last few centuries you have the three main superstitions all agreeing on the same 'god' yet fighting over the interpretation of it. Way before Hitler both England and America persecuted Jews. For spaghetti monsters sake don't be gay etc etc.

Human kind and the powers that be have been telling us how to think, dress, act for millenia. Only the methods and tolls have changed.

In my opinion it comes down to choices; you can either pay for dedicated product/service (like a GPS Nav device) or have access to a totally free service on a smart phone that accomplishes much same thing (like google maps).

So how is google maps "free", shouldn't you somehow be paying for this service? Well you are, but your payment is access to your private data in order to sell advertising. Google can give away the best search engine, email, hosted videos, maps, entire handset operating systems, etc. all for free since they make money through selling merchants the ability to reach you when you use these free services.

If you aren't comfortable with that price you can try and trade functionality for privacy, for example disabling your device's GPS means you have to manually locate yourself or never signing into youtube so they don't track you but with then you can't subscribe to a channel either.

There seem to be many people that have no issue with the exchange, its like having to sit through commercials in order to watch your television show.

There are even people that feel that if advertising is inevitable why not try to maximise the targeting and make it as relevant as possible.

SVreX wrote: In reply to RevRico: I've got a remote cabin in North GA. No electricity, no cell coverage. Borders 80,009 acres of National Forest land and some of the best trout fishing in the world. You can come live with me as soon as you are ready.

If it wasn't for my kid, I'd meet you there in like 3 days. Although, a big draw of GA to me is the mud pits, and no electricity might make keeping a mud truck running tricky. But great trout fishing and woods for miles with no snow sounds like heaven on earth.

RevRico wrote: In reply to Nick (picaso) Comstock: I have typed several responses. I have decided the best answer to that question is this. I specifically fear the world from 1984. Maybe on the surface it sounds crazy, but through my eyes, it's pretty much here. We welcome screens into our homes that can monitor our actions, impulses, and in some cases words and pictures. I look around, through television, the internet, news papers, even just walking around in public, and all I see is thought control. Public shaming of differing opinions, political fear mongering, a disturbing consensus among millenials that it's terrible to have personal opinions on topics that differ from the group as a whole. Everyone competing to make you accept their own beliefs, their own thoughts, and that you're a criminal, some sort of an -ist who should be penalized and outcast for not sharing the groups thoughts. I honestly fear the world my daughter will be entering into as an adult. Specifically to deal with the predictive navigation, and inherent tracking.. I just don't like it. I don't see a need for it, and consider it a potential for abuse, whether by hackers, angry cops, a divorce lawyer, whatever. . Crazy ex-whatever turned stalker, being able to find you anywhere any time. Lawyers, I really don't think I need an example there. I just don't see a real positive to it.

Nailed it!

RevRico wrote: In reply to Nick (picaso) Comstock: I have typed several responses. I have decided the best answer to that question is this. I specifically fear the world from 1984. Maybe on the surface it sounds crazy, but through my eyes, it's pretty much here. We welcome screens into our homes that can monitor our actions, impulses, and in some cases words and pictures. I look around, through television, the internet, news papers, even just walking around in public, and all I see is thought control. Public shaming of differing opinions, political fear mongering, a disturbing consensus among millenials that it's terrible to have personal opinions on topics that differ from the group as a whole. Everyone competing to make you accept their own beliefs, their own thoughts, and that you're a criminal, some sort of an -ist who should be penalized and outcast for not sharing the groups thoughts. I honestly fear the world my daughter will be entering into as an adult. Specifically to deal with the predictive navigation, and inherent tracking.. I just don't like it. I don't see a need for it, and consider it a potential for abuse, whether by hackers, angry cops, a divorce lawyer, whatever. . Crazy ex-whatever turned stalker, being able to find you anywhere any time. Lawyers, I really don't think I need an example there. I just don't see a real positive to it.

That's why I pack a flip-phone and a wi-fi only tablet. I've pissed off enough people to know that you really don't want to be tracked.