You know, if it hadn't been a president he shot, he would've been out a lot sooner. I mean, I understand a desire to keep people from taking potshots at our leaders, but it's not like keeping him incarcerated any longer is going to deter someone who is as nutty as he was(is?).
Does it mean that our legal system has such elements of levelheadedness that even an attempted assassination gets free time after paying dues, or its flaws that we don't (didn't?) have laws on the books that result in in elevated crimes to further discourage attempts?
Mitchell wrote: Does it mean that our legal system has such elements of levelheadedness that even an attempted assassination gets free time after paying dues, or its flaws that we don't (didn't?) have laws on the books that result in in elevated crimes to further discourage attempts?
I vote the first one.
In reply to Mitchell:
He's in an odd spot. He was never convicted of a crime because he was insane. If his doctors and lawyer can prove that he's not a threat to anyone because he's being properly treated and supervised they have the option of letting him out. I have a cousin who is schizophrenic. He stabbed his father to death and was not same enough to stand trial. He's in a psychiatric institution and could theoretically be released one day. It will never happen because he can't be trusted to take his meds and no one will take him into their home but if the day came where the state decided he wasn't a danger they could let him out.
He's been "out" for about 17 days a month for a couple of years now staying with his mother. This just removes his return to the hospital every other week.
Unfortunately his mother is 90 so she won't be around to care for him for much longer. As a burden on our society the cost of keeping him around for decades is ridiculous.
im a bit certain you can't cure that at all. you can cover it, sedate it, alter it, subdue it, but crazy is crazy.
-J0N
Gary wrote: In reply to bravenrace: Or H
Well Reagan was a Pub, so I picked Trump. But I'm sure there is someone better for both sides.
aircooled wrote: I am a bit suspicious you can't actually "cure" someone like that.
I hear that if you drop them from a helo, when they hit the ground they are instantly cured.
Huckleberry wrote:aircooled wrote: I am a bit suspicious you can't actually "cure" someone like that.I hear that if you drop them from a helo, when they hit the ground they are instantly cured.
I agree with this method.
The family of James Brady can't be pleased about this.
I remember watching the shooting on TV as a kid---- it's crazy now to hear how close Reagan came to death.
Funny how the murder of James Brady by Hinckley inspired the Brady Laws, but we still don't require mental health background checks.
PHeller wrote: Funny how the murder of James Brady by Hinckley inspired the Brady Laws, but we still don't require mental health background checks.
funny how james brady lived 14 years after being shot, but his death was ruled a homicide.
In reply to AngryCorvair:
He actually lived 33 years after being shot, but I believe his death was caused by health issues caused by the shooting.
AngryCorvair wrote:PHeller wrote: Funny how the murder of James Brady by Hinckley inspired the Brady Laws, but we still don't require mental health background checks.funny how james brady lived 14 years after being shot, but his death was ruled a homicide.
I too "mis"remembered this as Brady being shot & killed - not shot and survived. Not sure how I managed that.
And yeah - ruled a homicide, pretty unusual!
Brady took one to the head, at close range. I remember the TV showing it over, and over and over again in slow motion. It was a miracle he survived and lived as long as he did after that.
It's useful to remember in today's climate that there have always been crazy people willing to do harm to others-- for no other reason besides them being messed up. This is not a new phenomenon. Us humans tend to be crazy and violent. The Reagan shooting happened just over a year after the John Lennon murder. It was a scary time then too.
aircooled wrote: I am a bit suspicious you can't actually "cure" someone like that.
I have a relative and two friends that have schizophrenia. I have never heard mention of a cure that works. Aside from my cousin a friend is probably going to need to be committed as he's getting two difficult for his mother to control. He's about the age my cousin was when he was locked up. I don't know how much is a progression of the illness and how much is their parents being too old to handle them but I would imagine if it could be cured they'd be trying it.
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