Large sections of the Pine Barrens here in Southern NJ are off limits to off-roading now. Things like this are the reason why.
I wonder how many were locals?
Large sections of the Pine Barrens here in Southern NJ are off limits to off-roading now. Things like this are the reason why.
I wonder how many were locals?
That sort of thing affects OHV access across the country.
It both saddens and sickens me.
Idiots indeed. Hope they find them, make them buy 400 new trees, and plant every one of them with a teaspoon.
There are several national forest areas in north georgia that are headed that way. Tray mountain and Charlie's Creek come to mind. People never change.
The trees were apparently planted in a area that the off road crowd frequented. I have to wonder if there were any barricades or signage that the trees had been planted and for vehicles to stay out. If not, the drivers may not have noticed the trees that had been planted, and just went right back to their same old haunts like they had been doing for years. I have to wonder if this is a case of lack of communication.
Until these groups are willing to work together, this clash between the conservation crowd and the off road crowd is only going to get worse. But the extremeists on both sides don't seem to be willing to do that. This may have even been a big case of telling the conservation crowd to F off.
Toyman01 said:The trees were apparently planted in a area that the off road crowd frequented. I have to wonder if there were any barricades or signage that the trees had been planted and for vehicles to stay out. If not, the drivers may not have noticed the trees that had been planted, and just went right back to their same old haunts like they had been doing for years. I have to wonder if this is a case of lack of communication.
Until these groups are willing to work together, this clash between the conservation crowd and the off road crowd is only going to get worse. But the extremeists on both sides don't seem to be willing to do that. This may have even been a big case of telling the conservation crowd to F off.
From the story:
"The trees were reportedly planted in a cleared area that was visibly marked for wildlife rehabilitation."
So once again, it boils down to don't be a dick.
Duke said:So once again, it boils down to don't be a dick.
Yeah, what kind of dick plants trees in an off roading area?!
Kidding!
In before the lock.
In reply to z31maniac :
Perhaps. But a lot of off road activity in SNJ happens at night. What may be visibly marked during daylight could be less so in the dark.
That said, "a group of delinquents in New Jersey " is not exactly an uncommon entity.
Duke said:So once again, it boils down to don't be a dick.
As a former resident of that area, and current employee in the area, there is too much appendage flailing happening on both sides for anything to get accomplished.
In reply to Toyman01 :
yeah that makes sense. It's definitely a very local issue. Whilst I don't off road some of the pictures above look more like somebody planted a bunch of weird weeds.
I'm certainly not defending the off roaders but I'd imagine your adrenaline subdues your eco-consciousness somewhat.
Big signs would have been a plus.
Also don't the trees look to be planted too close together?
Without being a local or getting a perspective from both sides on here I doubt we'll ever know the dynamics outside of what our views make of it. 
There were signs. Plenty of them. The area is known.
Plus, I really doubt they accidentally chainsawed off a log barrier to the area, and then specifically spun donuts on the trees, and left a pile of trash smoldering.
This is vandalism, pure and simple. And will only make access to land more difficult for those of us who don't get drunk and tear up public land...
ok seems deliberate.
still a local problem.
and weren't the saplings planted too close together? 
And here is the thing- the Pinelands Preservation Alliance acquired the 200-acre Bucks Cove Run Preserve in June for $120,000.
I'm pretty sure if this happened on a GRMer's private property, no one would be defending this vandalism.
nutherjrfan said:ok seems deliberate.
still a local problem.
and weren't the saplings planted too close together?
No, this has already been picked up by the NY press, and becomes a national problem for people like myself who try to fight for public land use.
And no, the trees are White Cedar pines, not maples...
Im an avid offroader, never do i drive my "monster truck" as the kids call it anywhere thats not already a marked trail. I usually pay to offroad at a park designed for that activity.
BUT, if some tree huggers bought land that a group has been offroading on for years, blocked it off and planted a bunch of trees on it i can see how some would be pissed. Not justified, but i could understand the emotion.
Littering should result in the death penalty
I know there is an old seemingly abandoned fire tower back there. People used to climb it all the time for the sole purpose of throwing stuff off the top to watch it smash into the earth below
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