Where will inflation stop?

In reply to Toyman01 + Sized and :

The schools where I live actually don't suck. We are in the top 10% of all High Schools in Texas.

Your taxes may vary.

https://www.publicschoolreview.com/rockwall-high-school-profile

In reply to Toyman01 + Sized and :

The average salary of a teacher in South Carolina is $49k. I am sure the starting salary is much lower all for the low low cost of an unafforable college education. Plus if it is anything like other states I have been in they get the added benefit of congress critters trying to slash their benefits and paying for their own supplies meaning a lot of teachers have to work two jobs. Gee I wonder why so many teachers are quiting and some many are apathetic about their jobs.

ShawnG said:

In reply to Toyman01 + Sized and :

Then ask if you can opt-out and do things yourself.

I like the fire department, police, garbage pickup, running water and a toilet that flushes.

The bolded are relatively easy to do on your own, but I sure like not having to think about it. And if you look at what my parents pay in maintenance and replacement over the lifetime of their well and septic, and their cost of trash collection, it is far more expensive than what I pay the city every other month. 

93EXCivic said:

In reply to Toyman01 + Sized and :

The average salary of a teacher in South Carolina is $49k. I am sure the starting salary is much lower all for the low low cost of an unafforable college education. Plus if it is anything like other states I have been in they get the added benefit of congress critters trying to slash their benefits and paying for their own supplies meaning a lot of teachers have to work two jobs. Gee I wonder why so many teachers are quiting and some many are apathetic about their jobs.

When Kansas started slashing salaries and benefits for teachers, affluent Dallas suburbs like McKinney and Allen started recruiting experienced teachers in Kansas promising more money and better benefits. Now people in Kansas are whining about having to hire teachers from foreign countries that their children can't understand while test scores in North Texas Suburbs go up and up and up. I just have to laugh.

I had a nice response typed out. 

Then I remembered that as much as I love you guys, many of you are pretty close-minded and pretty liberal.

I'll just move along to more productive things. 

Being liberal had nothing to do with it. Just one conservative Republican state with more money stealing experienced teachers from another conservative Republican state with less money.

It's actually a capitalist thing. We stole Elon Musk away from California too.

In reply to Toyman01 + Sized and :

The person marching in front there has R tattooed on one cheek and D tattooed on the other.

In reply to Duke :

You are so right. 

It's like...

Granted... one group accusing the other of having blinders on is the root of many problems in this country... 

Toyman01 + Sized and said:

Then I remembered that as much as I love you guys, many of you are pretty close-minded and pretty liberal.

lib·er·al

willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas

Sometimes the irony is just too thick!! 

ShawnG said:

In reply to Toyman01 + Sized and :

Then ask if you can opt-out and do things yourself.

I like the fire department, police, garbage pickup, running water and a toilet that flushes.

Well, to be fair, your utilities aren't paid for through property taxes, those mostly go toward education. Trash pickup? Part of your city utility bill. Running water and sewer? Part of your city utility bill. EMS service, at least here, part of your utility bill, then an extra monster charge when you actually use it. Cable/internet, your locally approved private monopoly.

Gas/electricity, from your local energy provider. 

As for the "nice try though," no need for the snark. I was just pointing out something factual and wasn't implying you wouldn't pay your taxes. 

The point is, you don't really "own" something if not paying a few thousand to the government every year means they can seize it. 

z31maniac said:

ShawnG said:

In reply to Toyman01 + Sized and :

Then ask if you can opt-out and do things yourself.

I like the fire department, police, garbage pickup, running water and a toilet that flushes.

Well, to be fair, your utilities aren't paid for through property taxes, those mostly go toward education. Trash pickup? Part of your city utility bill. Running water and sewer? Part of your city utility bill. EMS service, at least here, part of your utility bill, then an extra monster charge when you actually use it. Cable/internet, your locally approved private monopoly.

Gas/electricity, from your local energy provider. 

As for the "nice try though," no need for the snark. I was just pointing out something factual and wasn't implying you wouldn't pay your taxes. 

The point is, you don't really "own" something if not paying a few thousand to the government every year means they can seize it. 

To be fair, it really depends on where you are.  Rural counties in my state use property taxes to fund fire departments and law enforcement.  They also use property taxes to fund watershed development (Water Management Districts).  The lottery that was touted to fund education now finds much of it's revenue "borrowed" by the state legislature for use in the general fund.  But, as a general rule what you say is true.  You pay for the privilege of "owning" a plot of land to the government every year.  And for "owning" personal property like a car or a boat.

Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter) said:

Toyman01 + Sized and said:

Then I remembered that as much as I love you guys, many of you are pretty close-minded and pretty liberal.

lib·er·al

willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas

Sometimes the irony is just too thick!! 

If only that were true of more big-L Liberals.

And I think the ice looks thin enough that I'm not going any further in this direction.

Weren't we talking about inflation?

Oh, and what's ironic is not accepting the opinions of others while taking a mic drop for belonging to the accepting party...in-the-same-sentence.  

Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter) said:

Toyman01 + Sized and said:

Then I remembered that as much as I love you guys, many of you are pretty close-minded and pretty liberal.

lib·er·al

willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas

Sometimes the irony is just too thick!! 

You keep telling yourself that. Most of us know the truth.

In reply to Toyman01 + Sized and :

When you start throwing words like "truth" around, all credibility is lost.

Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes (said un-ironically).   Insert different political parties where the X and Y is:

"The thing I really hate about X's, is they are always generalizing about Y's"

I swear to you I heard someone in the "media" say this... but it is sadly very common....

z31maniac said:

ShawnG said:

In reply to Toyman01 + Sized and :

Then ask if you can opt-out and do things yourself.

I like the fire department, police, garbage pickup, running water and a toilet that flushes.

Well, to be fair, your utilities aren't paid for through property taxes, those mostly go toward education. Trash pickup? Part of your city utility bill. Running water and sewer? Part of your city utility bill. EMS service, at least here, part of your utility bill, then an extra monster charge when you actually use it. Cable/internet, your locally approved private monopoly.

Gas/electricity, from your local energy provider. 

As for the "nice try though," no need for the snark. I was just pointing out something factual and wasn't implying you wouldn't pay your taxes. 

The point is, you don't really "own" something if not paying a few thousand to the government every year means they can seize it. 

My water is on my property tax assessment, it's shown there, as is transit, garbage and sewer.

Electricity and gas are separate.

As for the snark, my apologies, your post seemed snarky as well.

So back to the OP, it will be interesting to see how long it takes to stop the hold up at shipping ports.  Because of this, I learned that the RR does not go all the way into the Port of LA (is that right?) - which really surprised me.  So trucks are needed to take containers to close by RR- over freeways and whatnot.  

Seems like a poor idea that will take a few billion to fix.  Something people doing the shipping should consider paying for- since it will save time and money.

But there's a pretty significant trucker shortage right now, too.  

Having seen that there's more than one major chip plant being put up in Arizona right now, will this bring others back to the US, just to make sure there's a diversity in product sources?  Making stuff cheap in China is running out of steam.

Toyman01 + Sized and said:

You keep telling yourself that. Most of us know the truth.

Like duke said I guess I'm little l  

again back to the OP, I also see most of this as supply/demand issues and we'll be back to ~2% in 12-18mos. When people can't spend as much at Applebees they spend it all on plastic yard furniture and we're seeing the impact of that now.

alfadriver said:

So back to the OP, it will be interesting to see how long it takes to stop the hold up at shipping ports.  Because of this, I learned that the RR does not go all the way into the Port of LA (is that right?) - which really surprised me.  So trucks are needed to take containers to close by RR- over freeways and whatnot. ...

There are definitely rail lines into the port (I was there recently and had to wait for a train to get out).  But I believe their primary purpose is to move containers to a rather large marshaling yard just north of the port where they are transferred to trucks.  So yes, trucks are the major haulers.

Adding rail to Los Angeles.... good luck...  They are trying to add some light rail, and it has taken many many years, and lots and lots of money.  I suspect they will have a nice rail network done.... just in time for the appearance of effective self-driving cars...

To add to the absurdity.  And I have to say I have NO idea how this is supposed to work, and I suspect very much will not.  The port will be adding a penalty charge to container ($100 a day I believe) to encourage shippers to pick them up with trucks...

...which are critically short on drivers, to take them to distributions centers..

...which are packed because they can't get drivers to move product out...

I really have no idea how this is going to work.  They say it will encourage companies involved to solve the problem.  Yeah, like the companies involved don't already have a HUGE interest in solving the issue.  I do suspect it WILL do one thing...

...make shipping that much more expensive!.... which of course will be passed on....

...argh.

aside thought is one of the constraints is keeping the containers *somewhere* but zoning in LA only allowed 2 high in the trucking yards, and that just got doubled this week to 4 high to help relieve the constraint. Amazing how quick that got fixed once they noticed it.

Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter) said:

aside thought is one of the constraints is keeping the containers *somewhere* but zoning in LA only allowed 2 high in the trucking yards, and that just got doubled this week to 4 high to help relieve the constraint. Amazing how quick that got fixed once they noticed it.

Added to this, when they ran out of space they had to put them on chassis', which meant that the chassis shortage just gets worse...

aircooled said:

To add to the absurdity.  And I have to say I have NO idea how this is supposed to work, and I suspect very much will not.  The port will be adding a penalty charge to container ($100 a day I believe) to encourage shippers to pick them up with trucks...

...which are critically short on drivers, to take them to distributions centers..

...which are packed because they can't get drivers to move product out...

I really have no idea how this is going to work.  They say it will encourage companies involved to solve the problem.  Yeah, like the companies involved don't already have a HUGE interest in solving the issue.  I do suspect it WILL do one thing...

...make shipping that much more expensive!.... which of course will be passed on....

...argh.

May I reference those undiscovered tribes in Borneo again?

aircooled said:

To add to the absurdity.  And I have to say I have NO idea how this is supposed to work, and I suspect very much will not.  The port will be adding a penalty charge to container ($100 a day I believe) to encourage shippers to pick them up with trucks...

...which are critically short on drivers, to take them to distributions centers..

...which are packed because they can't get drivers to move product out...

I really have no idea how this is going to work.  They say it will encourage companies involved to solve the problem.  Yeah, like the companies involved don't already have a HUGE interest in solving the issue.  I do suspect it WILL do one thing...

...make shipping that much more expensive!.... which of course will be passed on....

...argh.

I dont think it is a magic bullet, but it will help force their hand to get more drivers all the way down the chain.  I'm guessing it also helps the port cover some of the losses from such a backup?

I talked with my neighbor recently and he was saying that he knows several fleet operators that have >30% of their fleets just parked because they can't find drivers.