Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit Reader
3/19/12 11:47 a.m.

Anyone here use a Snell helmet on the street? I know it's not a DOT unit but they are used in automotive racing so they will have to be able to withstand an impact. I have an older Snell (out of date) helmet that cannot be used for car racing, and was trying to think of another use.

Just asking. Paul B

chaparral
chaparral Reader
3/19/12 11:48 a.m.

Snell "M2010" is the standard you want.

New motorcycle helmets protect far, far better than any old helmet will.

Try on any new, $150 helmet. You'll be surprised at what that gets you now. I like my Bell Vortex.

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas New Reader
3/19/12 11:53 a.m.

My Scorpion EXO was about $130, and I'm pretty sure it is both DOT and SNELL rated.

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
3/19/12 11:57 a.m.

How fast do you expect your crashes to be? If you like to keep your crotch rocket moving at near-triple digit speeds, Snell may be the way to go. If you just sedately cruse the boulevard, you may be safer with a "lesser" helmet because it will give more.

http://www.westcoastweasels.com/archives/PDF/Blowing_the_Lid_Off.pdf

"The Snell sticker," continued Newman, "has become a marketing gimmick. By spending 60 cents [paid to the Snell foundation], a manufacturer puts that sticker in his helmet and he can increase the price by $30 or $40. Or even $60 or $100. "Because there's this allure, this charisma, this image associated with a Snell sticker that says, 'Hey, this is a better helmet, and therefore must be worth a whole lot more money.' And in spite of the very best intentions of everybody at Snell, they did not have the field data [on actual accidents] that we have now [when they devised the standard]. And although that data has been around a long time, they have chosen, at this point, not to take it into consideration." A World Of Hurt Dr. Hurt sees the Snell standard in pretty much the same light. "What should the [G] limit on helmets be? Just as helmet designs should be rounder, smoother and safer, they should also be softer, softer, softer. Because people are wearing these so-called high-performance helmets and are getting diffused [brain] injuries ... well, they're screwed up for life. Taking 300 Gs is not a safe thing. "We've got people that we've replicated helmet [impacts] on that took 250, 230 Gs [in their accidents]. And they've got a diffuse injury they're not gonna get rid of. The helmet has a good whack on it, but so what? If they'd had a softer helmet they'd have been better off."

Oh, and the guy who wrote the article got canned for it
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/sprockets/motorcyclist-magazine-caves-to-advertiser-pressure/23959/page1/

chaparral
chaparral Reader
3/19/12 1:02 p.m.

The Snell M2010 standard actually incorporated a lot of what they learned in the "Blowing the Lid Off" test. The acceptable decelerations are a lot lower.

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
3/19/12 1:13 p.m.
chaparral wrote: The Snell M2010 standard actually incorporated a lot of what they learned in the "Blowing the Lid Off" test. The acceptable decelerations are a lot lower.

Thank you. I was unaware of that. I have an SA2005 that I won't use for autocross because of that article. It is good to know that the 2010 standards are better for low speed crashes.

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit Reader
3/19/12 1:29 p.m.

Thanks guys I will have to read the Snell link later. Since we are taking about helmets what is general thoughts on Bell full face motorcycle helmets? I found one I like, it fits well and is in my price range Good or bad?

As for use I plan to buy a cruiser bike so no high speed adventures.

Thanks Paul B

Osterkraut
Osterkraut UltraDork
3/19/12 2:00 p.m.

Having been in a head-impacting motorcycle crash, I dont think I'd risk using an out-of-date auto helmet. Snell rated motorcycle helments are so cheap these days, why not go for the extra protection?

rotard
rotard HalfDork
3/19/12 2:44 p.m.
Osterkraut wrote: Having been in a head-impacting motorcycle crash, I dont think I'd risk using an out-of-date auto helmet. Snell rated motorcycle helments are so cheap these days, why not go for the extra protection?

Truth. Buy one online on closeout.

mpolans
mpolans New Reader
3/20/12 8:33 a.m.

Checkout www.motorcyclegear.com for some great deals on closeout helmets and other stuff. Excellent service too.

ddavidv
ddavidv UberDork
3/21/12 5:17 a.m.

Though I didn't buy there, Dennis Kirk has some good closeouts on odd sizes and weird colors also. I just got my second helmet, an HJC that only cost around $125 at the local snowmobile shop. All I had to do was switch out the visor. I researched helmets a LOT and brand or price doesn't mean squat. The FIT is the important thing. More money generally only buys increased comfort, not protection.

mistanfo
mistanfo SuperDork
3/21/12 8:34 a.m.

More comfort, and less noise. Unless you of bar hop, this is important.

EvanB
EvanB UltraDork
3/21/12 9:37 a.m.

I got a Scorpion EXO-400 on closeout for $60 at the local motorcycle shop. It has an decal scheme but nothing a repaint won't fix. Snell and DOT rated.

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