http://springfieldil.craigslist.org/cto/3304470512.html
This looks like an exceptionally clean Oldsmobile wagon. Decent price, too. But click it. Go ahead. You'll see.
http://springfieldil.craigslist.org/cto/3304470512.html
This looks like an exceptionally clean Oldsmobile wagon. Decent price, too. But click it. Go ahead. You'll see.
'80s GM diesels single-handedly set diesel cars back 30 years in America. Hell, the engine in that car is the reason we hardly even get diesels now!
I got shivers when I looked at this pic:
My wife's family gave us their old '81 Delta 88 diesel right before we got married. I'll be having nightmares tonight.
Yeah, I sooo want a diesel wagon...just not THAT diesel wagon. Well the wagon I like, just not the engine. But still that's pretty nice.
DrBoost wrote: 5.7L diesel, 148,000 miles. My maths say that's the 5th engine?
"30,000 miles since factory engine replacement", so... yeah.
Someone needs to buy this and put a 455 in it in 5,000 miles when the current oil-burner bites the dust.
Duke wrote: '80s GM diesels *single-handedly* set diesel cars back 30 years in America. Hell, the engine in that car is the reason we hardly even get diesels now!
It's not that GM is too big to fail, it's that GM needs to be eternally rewarded for this.
I was a line tech at an Olds dealer in 1982-3. I used to change head gaskets on these without removing the intake manifold. This was because the injection pump was mounted to it, so it was a lot more work to remove the intake. We just pryed it up just enough to get the head out, and reversed for installation. Nothing else got done, just the gasket replacement (you know, like repairing the reason it blew in the first place!)! A GM rep once told us in a training meeting that GM pretty much let the customers do the field testing on this engine.
I got paid 8 hours to do both head gaskets and could do them in 4. I love the olds diesel!!!!
Funny that 25 years later Ford came out with the 6.0 liter diesel with pretty much the same set of problems.
In reply to bearmtnmartin:
Oh the 6.0 isn't nearly as bad as that. The problem was you didn't have a bunch of diesel fan boys buying olds wagons and putting tuners and stacks on them and trying to "black out" traffic behind them. My 6.0 has almost 90k on it and its still chugging along happily, pulling my 10k trailer without complaint. Then again, I maintain it well and drive it like I care about it.
One cool thing about the old GM diesel cars is that apparently you can swap in a duramax and still meet smog, since they originally came with diesel. I saw one like that in a diesel power mag.
In reply to andrave:
I presume your 6.0L has been studded.........well, it obviously has been if you've made it to 90k. Those also had oiling problems the first few years.....huge step backwards from the 7.3L rattleboxes.
andrave wrote: In reply to bearmtnmartin: Oh the 6.0 isn't nearly as bad as that. The problem was you didn't have a bunch of diesel fan boys buying olds wagons and putting tuners and stacks on them and trying to "black out" traffic behind them. My 6.0 has almost 90k on it and its still chugging along happily, pulling my 10k trailer without complaint. Then again, I maintain it well and drive it like I care about it. One cool thing about the old GM diesel cars is that apparently you can swap in a duramax and still meet smog, since they originally came with diesel. I saw one like that in a diesel power mag.
Mine is at 93k with zero troubles. When you take care of things they take care of you.
It doesn't blink at pulling my 28' trailer with 3 horses in it.
yamaha wrote: In reply to andrave: I presume your 6.0L has been studded.........well, it obviously has been if you've made it to 90k. Those also had oiling problems the first few years.....huge step backwards from the 7.3L rattleboxes.
No studs, no modifications except the ford updated fuel pressure regulator. I also have a scangauge to keep an eye on my coolant/oil temp deltas and trans temp. No oiling issues, actually I've never heard of the 6.0 having any oiling issues and I'm very familiar with all of its various shortcomings. low FICM voltage, injecter coking while hot, plugged oil cooler, ruptured EGR cooler, faulty water pumps... those are the big ones. Besides the aforementioned heads lifting.
A friend of mine's dad put over 400k on an Electra with that diesel. I seem to remember him having the head gaskets done once. Of course he drove like the proverbial little old lady. My guess it didn't see wot the entire time he owned it.
Buddy got one pennys on the dollar with 30,000 mi , swapped in a 454 and pulled away from 911s on the freeway. . . with his 82nd field gear.
Damnit! This is like 4 hours from me... I don't need this, I don't need this, I don't need this, I don't need this, I don't need this...
Keith Tanner wrote: I like the fact that all of the photos are 2.5 years old.
Might be, but I never put too much stock into those dates.
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