mazdeuce
mazdeuce MegaDork
9/28/17 5:57 a.m.

My objection to spraying was primarily environmental. I don't have a way to spray inside where I have control of over spray and bugs and leaves getting stuck in it. Related to that, since I'm going to brush/roll it on there is a high likelihood that I'm going to be at least slightly disappointed at the finish so I want it to be durable, but not so much that I can't take it back off and do a better job in the future when facilities/ability improve. 

Reading over what I just wrote makes me sound........not intelligent. In truth I just want it to not rust while I figure it out. Now that it's somewhere humid you can almost hear the dormant South Dakota rust blooming due to the East Texas humidity. 

TED_fiestaHP
TED_fiestaHP Reader
9/28/17 7:20 a.m.

Nice thing about brushing the paint on, you can do a little at a time, and see the progress.   Really to spray it, you would have to prep the entire thing, then spray all of it.  It's always nice to see some progress, makes you want to keep going.

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
9/28/17 8:53 a.m.

In reply to mazdeuce :

IOW: If it's going to be ugly it better be tough?

corybrown50
corybrown50 New Reader
9/28/17 12:39 p.m.

Completely off topic, went into my t-shirt drawer this morning and Ferdi was on top....Thought he would be a great friend today while smoking 2 pork butts for baptism party this weekend. So for all you diesel enthusiasts....Ferdinand is making SMOKE!

Mezzanine
Mezzanine Dork
9/28/17 12:52 p.m.

My Ferdinand shirt came out to play today - I felt it was important for him to feel at home, so here I am with my own crusty truck. Thanks Mazdeuce!

 

Recon1342
Recon1342 Reader
9/28/17 1:11 p.m.

Ferdinand shirt arrived yesterday, as did the TTWO stickers. I'm super jazzed, and my wife is super... patient. The stickers have been placed in my safe until I have a vehicle for the 400, at which point they will be the first decals placed.

cutting and splitting firewood for family members this weekend... I'll earn my shirt with sweat.

mikedd969
mikedd969 New Reader
9/28/17 1:17 p.m.

I also had a Ferdinand shirt and TTWO stickers in my mailbox yesterday when I got home.

Many thanks Mazdeuce, you sir are a prince among men!!

As far as the powerplant for Ferdinand goes, I understand completely the reasoning and desire for rebuilding the IH V8 he came with, but in your shoes, I think a nice mildly-built 460 (or even a 390) would be an excellent option.  Plenty of aftermarket support for them, and they are great engines when you need plenty of torque.  Of course, I grew up wrenching on those, so I'm a bit biased........

 

mazdeuce
mazdeuce MegaDork
9/28/17 2:47 p.m.

In reply to Mezzanine :

That's awesome! Is that an old Dodge? 

In reply to Recon1342 :

I'm going to need pictures of that! The car I mean, not you splitting firewood. cheeky

In reply to mikedd969 :

Fergus has a 390 and I can't quite make myself do two of the same thing even though I would probably get better if I did. The world is just so full of cool shiny stuff that I want to play with it all. 

More paint experiments today. I used a roller this time. Coverage was better, paint went on better, but the texture was completely different. The paint I did yesterday is this, like a nice candy shell with runs and fish eyes:

Today's paint was thinner, more even, and hopefully will cure better, but it's more orange peel/egg shell texture. Would I get better flow by thinning the paint a bit? Maybe this is just a consequence of using a roller? Maybe the second coat will be better? 

The frame is going to be a hodgepodge of quality and texture. I don't know any other way to learn than just give it a try and see what happens, and this is what I have to practice on. I'm glad it's huge, lots of room for experimentation. 

Gunchsta
Gunchsta Reader
9/28/17 2:49 p.m.

As always keep up the good work, and here's one of my stickers on my truck since this seems to be the place for these pictures. 

 

Jerry From LA
Jerry From LA SuperDork
9/28/17 2:49 p.m.

Your paint could be curing that way due to excessive humidity.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce MegaDork
9/28/17 2:59 p.m.
Jerry From LA said:

Your paint could be curing that way due to excessive humidity.

In Houston! I never.........

Right now it's 90°, 54% humidity, heat index of 104°. I was barely sweating in the shade. 

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
9/28/17 4:09 p.m.

Are you using a foam roller, or a fabric roller? That stippling looks like a common foam roller texture.

I think it has something to do with the air in the roller pulling up on the surface as it moves across the surface. Lighter pressure seems to help. Overall, I prefer fabric rollers though. 

Mezzanine
Mezzanine Dork
9/28/17 4:36 p.m.
mazdeuce said:

In reply to Mezzanine :

That's awesome! Is that an old Dodge? 

Today's paint was thinner, more even, and hopefully will cure better, but it's more orange peel/egg shell texture. Would I get better flow by thinning the paint a bit? Maybe this is just a consequence of using a roller? Maybe the second coat will be better? 

 

I actually like the look of the rolled texture for the frame. I wouldn't expect it to be perfectly smooth - it's an old truck.

And yes, that's my '66 Dodge D200 sweptline. It's largely used for trips to the hardware store and the dump.

 

mazdeuce
mazdeuce MegaDork
9/28/17 4:39 p.m.

In reply to Crackers :

I AM using a foam roller. You're a paint whisperer. GRM has got to be the only place with this level of paint expertise. I have a fabric roller too, I'll try that tomorrow. 

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
9/28/17 4:59 p.m.

I'm just very (selectively) observant. 

If you look very closely you can see little craters where air bubbles got pulled out of the foam then popped. I can see at least one bubble still intact. 

On edit: Thinning would probably make the stippling worse. 

Gentabout
Gentabout New Reader
9/28/17 5:36 p.m.

I think I like the dimpled finish as well. Will help hide some of the less than perfect steel underneath.

Trans_Maro
Trans_Maro PowerDork
9/28/17 5:38 p.m.

It's a truck frame.

Let's not go crazy, paint it with something black that will take abuse and continue on with your life.

If anyone is looking close enough to lodge a complaint, kick them in the ass while they're bent over.

mazdeuce
mazdeuce MegaDork
9/28/17 6:54 p.m.

In reply to Trans_Maro :

It's not like I'm going to go back and make it match, but part of the point is to learn so that so that when I need to do a good job in the future I know how, as well as knowing what the "good enough" methods are. You don't get Crackers level of bubble noticing without some experimentation in your past. laugh

stafford1500
stafford1500 HalfDork
9/28/17 7:04 p.m.

I use hammerite finish on things that need to get industrial use and probably aren't going to be treated well...

Mad_Ratel
Mad_Ratel Dork
9/28/17 7:14 p.m.

i like the "hammered" finish better. hides the holes/rust spots in the metal... (pick b me'lord!)

Crackers
Crackers HalfDork
9/28/17 8:20 p.m.

I do enjoy learning things the hard way. Apparently.

I've been surrounded by artists my entire life so I'm familiar with a lot of texturing techniques. However, I may or may not have a kitchen cabinet with several craters in it. LOL

csmith1510
csmith1510 New Reader
9/29/17 6:34 a.m.

A little late to the party, but i did get my shirt and stickers. Wanted to thank Mr and Mrs Duece for those. They are awesome. My wife just looked and said "I don't get it". That's ok, because I do.

bonylad
bonylad New Reader
9/29/17 6:58 a.m.

Feeling stupid here - wheres the link to buy these?

mazdeuce
mazdeuce MegaDork
9/29/17 7:19 a.m.
bonylad said:

Feeling stupid here - wheres the link to buy these?

The story is that I had a bit of inspiration and got all artsy. I decided I wanted to make a t-shirt out of the design for fun and offered to make a few for people that wanted them thinking I'd be making something like 20 shirts. Within about 24 hours I realized I had grossly underestimated the number of people reading along. I ended up making over 80 shirts and most of them have shipped out. Nobody bought them, but that has more to do with me.  

If you want any Think Twice Wrench Once stickers I'd be happy to throw them in a envelope for you, but no shirts for a while. I'm considering a second run if I get to the point where I can celebrate driving the truck on the road. 

bonylad
bonylad New Reader
9/29/17 7:29 a.m.

In reply to mazdeuce :

Yes please, how much and how do I pay?  Big fan ever since the AMG and other associated projects. Love to put one on my 07 FA5 thats my daily.  Let me know please. Thank you !

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