The Panhandler. 1958 Panhard Dyna Z 2.5RS

In reply to RossD :

We prefer to call them Subarust shells.

The Panhard is far rustier.

Together the tetanus twins combine to make my jaw lock in agony.

Sweet.

Cool, cool project.

I can't wait to see how this goes but it has all the trappings of awesome.

To see how well the two are going to blend, take a measurement from the middle of the front axle to the middle of the front seat in its halfway adjusted point.

Take another measurement from the middle of one front seat to the middle of the other seat.

Make a mark in the Panhard that matches the two measurements from the Subaru; That is where the new chassis is going to try and locate the driver. Sit in that spot ( or pretend to) and look out the  Panhard window. Is it all good? Are you sitting behind the windshield post? Are you right besides the B post? Are you too close to the window? Too far away?

Pete

In reply to NOHOME :

Great suggestion! 

The coolest part about using these cars is the similarity in length from the front wheels to the B pillar. It's amazing how close they are. 

In reply to QuasiMofo :

If you make this project run under its own power and can make it to the challenge, if I am there or not I will buy you a case of that really good beer next time your in the area

QuasiMofo said:

In reply to NOHOME :

Great suggestion! 

The coolest part about using these cars is the similarity in length from the front wheels to the B pillar. It's amazing how close they are. 

I learned this the hard way.  I knew that my Miata chassis was 7" short of wheelbase compared to the Volvo, but ASSUMED it would be behind the seats. I mean, the Volvo had back seats and was longer towards the back so ti HAD to be behind the seats right? So I went and did  this to the first donor

When I stuffed the front bit under the Volvo and lined up the wheels in the front wheel-well, I was pretty much up against the dash when in the seat. Moving the seat back was not the correct solution either. So enter Miata #2

Just had to locate that loose bit 7" forward.

This is amazing and I can’t wait to see progress

In reply to tattooedwelder2018 :

Oh Canada won' let me back into the area after the last trip.  

In reply to QuasiMofo :

Did you plead that you did not know 100mp/h was not the same as 100km/h?

I call it Snow falling on E36 M3box.

Maybe we need a body swap class at the challenge. LOL

Crackers said:

Maybe we need a body swap class at the challenge. LOL

So much this.

QuasiMofo said:

 

I call it Snow falling on E36 M3box.

That looks so much better in your yard than mine

Patrick said:

QuasiMofo said:

 

I call it Snow falling on E36 M3box.

That looks so much better in your yard than mine

Sounds like the reciprocal country song of "I can't get over you (getting under him)"

Indy-Barely Functional-Guy said:

Crackers said:

Maybe we need a body swap class at the challenge. LOL

So much this.

So much this:

In reply to NOHOME :

Interesting point:

There is a 3.5" difference in rocker panel but a 1.6" difference in advertised wheel base. I measured the wheel well opening on the rear of the Panhard and it's over 1.5" shorter than the Subaru. The issue with measuring from the front is the hood contains the fenders and the bumper mounted to the engine crossmember. I have to mock them up to determine the front wheel centerline. It's on the ever growing checklist. 

In reply to QuasiMofo :

You pretty much want to build the car around the Subaru front bulkhead.  The more of the subaru bulkhead you leave intact, the easier it will be to keep all the great stuff that is attahed to the bulkhead like brakes, steering HVAC and wiring.

If I had to do this over, I would have even tried to figure out how to keep the Miata A post intact and adapted the Volvo door hinge system to swing on the Miata hinge mounts.

Looking forward to seeing how the two mate when the time comes.

Pete 

I'm betting the front suicide doors helps my situation 

I'm also pretty dead set on keeping the A/C, heat, stereo with subs, speedometer and everything except SRS/airbags. 

Essentially a stock 2.5RS that looks cool.

Will your HVAC fit between your door posts? Mine didn't. 

Need to do what this guy did and build a giant inside caliper

Crackers said:

Will your HVAC fit between your door posts? Mine didn't. 

There is a difference in outer width, it will be close.

My plan is to disassemble the Subaru dash and roll a simple dash out of the roof cut, mating it to the remnants of the Panhards steel dash. Cutting out for the dash switchgear, stereo and HVAC plumbing and rerouting the dash mounted vents. The actual HVAC box will retain its standard position.

The only thing I've yet to plan out is the adaptation of the wipers. I can either reset the Subaru components into the higher scuttle or build linkages to turn the OE arms.

Cold nights and long winters create a lot of time for overthinking projects.

In reply to QuasiMofo :

Long commutes offer similar opportunities for over planning.