Latest Porsche 911

We just spent a few days with the latest Porsche 911 Carrera S, and I have to say that it won over some new fans. So, is it too new to be considered a classic?

Why is there always some guy that shows up at a vintage car show in his new Ferrari or Porsche. What part of the phrase Vintage Car don't they understand.

If it has a computer. It's not a classic.

AndreGT6 wrote: If it has a computer. It's not a classic.

What about the fuel injected TR8?

LOL!! My TR8 came with twin Strombergs (replaced long ago with a 4 bbl).

David S. Wallens wrote:

AndreGT6 wrote: If it has a computer. It's not a classic.

What about the fuel injected TR8?

For a real jaw dropper, check out the only surviving operation 1958 DeSoto with factory EFI:

http://www.allpar.com/cars/desoto/electrojector.html

AndreGT6 wrote: If it has a computer. It's not a classic.

I can remember, seems like last week, when we all claimed any car with roll up windows was not a classic. "Classic" like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And like this beholder, we all tend to change our minds over time. I notice this is usually reflecting what we just bought.

BTW: I have seen many different definitions of computer as well.

Roll-up windows!? Over my dead body!

I like to think of "vintage" as age related. 25 years is a good age to start to call a car vintage when all the clunkers are gone. "Classic" I think of as related to other factors as well as age, such as importance, rarity, beauty etc... Some are more vintage or classic than others. One could call this collectability or desirability. This 911 Carrera S will likely be considered a collectable classic at the earliest time possible as well as vintage when it reaches a certain age. Why: It is a Porsche with a history of producing classics. It is a $100,000 high end Porsche. It is a low production high performance sports car. Cheers Ron

David S. Wallens wrote: Roll-up windows!? Over my dead body!

There you go!

BTW: we also claimed for a time that a car couldn't be a "Sports Car" if it came with exterior door handles.

rconlon,

I believe the Model A, TA, 100/4, Avanti, 912, Manxman, Interceptor, TT-120, Gold Star, plus the TR-2 and several others I can't think of at the moment were and are classics from very soon after their introduction. I'm sure the E-Type was a classic before one was ever delivered to a purchaser! In fact the E-Type is what made many I knew back then first accept roll-up windows on a classic.

I the media they describe a "star" as someone who only needs one name to be recognized. Perhaps I would describe a "classic vehicle" as a one which you don't need to name the brand because most already know the brand.

"Vintage" & "antique" also have varying minimum ages and descriptions depending upon each person's opinion.. That's why we have so much fun on these forums.

As to who should show up & on/in what for any given show? The organizers can decide their criteria or decide not to. In lieu of organizer's limitations, I have a problem with anyone getting in a snoot because of what someone else believes is vintage, antique, classic, etc.

It beats the hell out of dodging them while they are phoning, texting, typing, faxing, etc. as they "drive."

OOPS!!

The first sentence in the last paragraph above said. "I believe we should encourage everyone to be enthusiastic about whatever vehicle the are traveling in or on!"

Somehow, when I added the post that sentence disappeared.