californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia UltraDork
1/18/22 6:47 p.m.

Hi

I hope to go look at a 1956 TR3 next weekend that has sat for 8 years , 

not sure what the plan is , but was wondering which Whitworth wrenches/sockets are needed or can I use SAE / Metric that I already have ?

Also  I assume its  Positive ground ,  is the coil also positive ground ?   does it have a positive ground fuel pump like my old XK120 had ?

Anything else to think about ?

Thanks for your ideas......

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed UltraDork
1/18/22 7:52 p.m.

I can't answer any of your questions but good luck with your potential purchase. I like British cars but I don't know anything about them. Sounds interesting though.

Apis Mellifera
Apis Mellifera Dork
1/18/22 9:07 p.m.

We have a '57 and a '59.  I don't specifically recall any Whitworth on the car.  Maybe the banjo bolt on the SU floats or brakes.  I could be thinking of an MGA.  I don't know Jag stuff, but most post-war MG/TR/AH hardware is SAE.  The TR3 has a mechanical fuel pump.  The coil doesn't have a polarity, but could be wired + or - ground - not that it really matters.  It'll run either way it's wired, but will have a less vigorous spark if it's backward.  There is a procedure to ground the generator briefly to polarize it, otherwise the charging and electrical system isn't polarity specific.  Swap the wires on the ammeter and you're good.

CJ
CJ Dork
1/18/22 9:14 p.m.

Get a sets of Whitworth Combination Wrenches and Sockets by King Dick.  Because who doesn't need some King Dick in their toolbox?

TurnerX19
TurnerX19 UltraDork
1/18/22 10:07 p.m.

Only Whitworth sizes on a TR3 are on the carburettors and a few tiny British Associated bits on the Lucas and Smiths components. All of the mechanicals are SAE threaded with inch measurement heads. 7/16 Whitworth carb banjo bolts can be faked with 13/16" US wrench. 

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia UltraDork
1/18/22 10:16 p.m.
TurnerX19 said:

Only Whitworth sizes on a TR3 are on the carburettors and a few tiny British Associated bits on the Lucas and Smiths components. All of the mechanicals are SAE threaded with inch measurement heads. 7/16 Whitworth carb banjo bolts can be faked with 13/16" US wrench. 

thanks , are there positive ground coils etc ?

LanEvo
LanEvo Dork
1/19/22 9:41 a.m.

Can confirm: SAE is all you need

frenchyd
frenchyd UltimaDork
1/19/22 10:05 a.m.

In reply to californiamilleghia :

Yes positive ground.  

Saron81
Saron81 Dork
1/19/22 10:53 a.m.

I'd imagine most bolts are SAE fine thread, as that's what MG was using. And positive ground! 

B. Yourself
B. Yourself Reader
1/19/22 11:03 a.m.

Here is some good info on coils, and how to make sure polarity is correct.

http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ignition/ig104.htm

akylekoz
akylekoz SuperDork
1/19/22 11:40 a.m.

I sure loved the TR3 that I drove for a few hours one fine Michigan July afternoon.  So fun on a twisty road at relatively low speeds using all 50 HP and  1" of suspension travel.  That's what it felt like anyway.

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia UltraDork
1/19/22 12:46 p.m.

Thanks for the Info , glad its SAE wrenches , 

I know when I was helping my buddy with British motorcycles there was a lot of Whitworth , so i was confused what the cars were.....

wspohn
wspohn SuperDork
1/19/22 1:58 p.m.

Owned a bunch of these. No special tools needed except as already mentioned.

Don't worry about battery polarity - leave it as positive ground unless you install a modern negative ground radio or other electronics in which case it takes 5 minutes to repolarize it for negative ground.

Pay attention to body and frame rust and suspension condition.

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