conesare2seconds
conesare2seconds Dork
3/9/19 3:29 p.m.

Bought a 2011 Genesis 4.6 this week and thought I'd share initial impressions.

Ours looks exactly like this one; navy blue outside, tan interior.

 

For a 10 year old platform there is decent tech.  The 4.6 cars get a Technology package standard and our car has a few extras and one notable omission.  There is adaptive cruise control, parking assist warning, lane departure warning (not on our car), pivoting adaptive xenon headlights, bluetooth (calls only, no media streaming), navigation and a backup camera.  Blind spot monitoring and remote start are not available on this generation.  

The styling is derivative - more than anything else, it shares lines and proportions with the 2103-2018 Accord.  The Genesis is about a half-size larger and looks for all the world like an Accord that got Juvederm. 

First-gen Genesis (2009-2014) cars had an identity crisis.  Some years wore Hyundai badges with Genesis model designations, some mostly carried the Genesis wing logo, and some went incognito.  Our 2011 wears Genesis logos front and rear but displays a Hyundai H on the airbag cover and key fob.  We're swapping in a NOS airbag with the wing logo 'cause we think it looks nicer.   

On the road, there is no mistaking the Genesis for a German rival.  Steering is precise but lacks feel when the pace picks up.  Ride quality is smooth, with more body roll in transitions than the Europeans.  Handling is nonetheless tidy for a relatively heavy and tall sedan. There is little or no float.  Brake pedal travel is Euro-long.  The brakes are sufficient but I think I’d like a more aggressive pad  

Some of the curb weight is probably down to a stiff structure and extensive sound deadening.  The Genesis is serenely quiet inside, which shows off the excellent top of the line 17 speaker Lexicon sound system.  Infotainment is controlled through an expensive feeling rotary knob, on par with peers of the day, though we wish for the haptic knobs and buttons used on newer Genesis models.  The central screen is large but lacks touch capability. 

The rear seat is expansive, with generous legroom and a welcome power retractable rear sun shade.  Rear seat comfort compares well to Lexus and other competitors.  We would welcome side bolsters in the front seats, which are comfortable but flat.  The 4.6 gets a ventilated driver seat.  While we would prefer a slightly thicker steering wheel rim and gear selector knob,  neither is much to fuss about.

The Genesis 4.6 has a good reputation for reliability.  Engine problems, while rare, seem to concentrate around VVT or timing chain failure.  Of all its features, our car's most appealing is the barely 17,000 miles on its odometer. We opted for an extended warranty for the added peace of mind.  Owners should be prepared for occasional infotainment glitches which mostly resolve on their own, something we have experienced.  

Power delivery of the 4.6 is strictly no-drama.  It revs willingly and makes good torque to pair with its 385 horsepower.  The owner’s manual reveals that use of 87 octane is acceptable.  The trade off versus premium is just 10 peak hp or so, which we think is worth it given the price delta at the pump. Fuel economy is rated at 25 mpg highway, respectable for the car’s weight and engine output.  

This was the last year for the  6-speed automatic.  It would benefit from improved shift mapping and smoother tip in programming for the electronic throttle.  At low speeds the car can be a little difficult to drive smoothly.  There is plenty of power for spirited driving and the drivetrain is more certain when called on to move out authoritatively.   

Value-proposition buys won't win you any respect from those with truly deep wallets, but we aren't very attracted to the high care and feeding costs of a used Mercedes or BMW and we aren't trying to score points with anyone.  For us, the Genesis is basically a used Lexus at a lower price point, something we like very much. 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/9/19 3:37 p.m.

I’ve always thought this was the perfect cross country cruiser for a person on a budget 

appliance_racer
appliance_racer Reader
3/9/19 4:28 p.m.

The badge identity crisis was due to Bentley. The winged emblem was used in other markets but Bentley threatened lawsuits if used in some markets, one of those being the US. The dealer could install them without worry and that's what most if not all of them did. I've installed hundreds of winged badges as part of the pdi when I was with Hyundai. Most of the customers at the time really liked the car and the value but didnt want to be seen driving a flying H. You know, keeping up with the Jones' mercs and bimmers and stuff. 

conesare2seconds
conesare2seconds Dork
3/10/19 5:20 p.m.

Edit: Added more notes. 

STM317
STM317 SuperDork
3/10/19 7:16 p.m.

I agree that the the Accord and Genesis have a similar aesthetic, but I think the Accord looks like the Genesis since the Genesis was on sale 2 years earlier. I think they're both handsome though, and the fairly conservative styling should age well.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt PowerDork
3/11/19 7:41 a.m.

What do those things go for now that they're close to a decade old? I remember renting a V6 Genesis sedan for a trip to Bonneville a few years ago; it was a fairly pleasant place to be for a long highway drive, even if it wasn't particularly sporty.

MINIzguy
MINIzguy HalfDork
3/11/19 8:04 a.m.

Do these things rust out?

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/11/19 8:45 a.m.

In reply to MadScientistMatt :

The 4.6's are starting around $5500 with high miles (150+k) and the 5.0's are starting around $10k

This looks like a smoking deal.

spacecadet
spacecadet Reader
3/11/19 10:35 a.m.

I remember getting in one of these we took on trade back In 2015. It was an older vintage than you have I think....You could tell where it came from in the interior materials, but they're not bad cars by any measure. 

edizzle89
edizzle89 SuperDork
3/11/19 12:43 p.m.

I picked up a 2009 4.6 genesis fall of last year with 189k miles on it. I've put about 4k miles on it since and it's been a really good car so far. Everything still works as it should, although mine's not a tech package so it's got less things to go wrong. I had to change the purge valve that was causing a check engine light. I also had some small rpm surging when the torque converter would lock (it locks as low as 25 mph in 3rd and up through the rest of the gears), but a fluid/filter change and some Lubegard Instant Shudder Fixx that the BMW guys swear by cleared that up, the 6 speed is a ZF 6HP26 unit and used in a number of BMW's and other euro cars so there's good information out there about them. It does do decent mileage for a bigger v8 car, around 18-20 in town and ~26 highway. As for rust mine only has one spot on the front fender where it's bubbling under the paint which I'm guessing is mostly due to a minor accident/bump/cheap fix as there's really no other rust on the car.

 

They also sound pretty good with a muffler delete wink

 

 

Personally unless you are able to get one with a warranty I would avoid the 2012+ cars unless the trans has already been replaced as the Hyundai-made 8 speeds are know to have a lot of issues. Also the 2012 5.0's had an oil burning issue that was fixed by 2013.

Cruizer
Cruizer New Reader
8/23/20 11:17 a.m.

I have a 2011 4.6 that I purchased 2 1/2 yrs ago with 94,000 on her...I now have 160,000 on her and have had only 2 things go wrong with it, (1) Brake booster (2) Alternator, I've had a lot of cars in my yrs and I must say this is probably one of the most enjoyable. Fuel economy is pretty good if I stay out of the city and keep it at 80 0r below. Avg all around 19-24, highway with the cruise set at 80 will average near 30 mpg, if you crank her up to 120 or more you can almost see the needle move. Oil change every 2500 miles with a synthetic blend, good performance road tires and it's an absolute joy to drive. Just wish you could turn of the stupid adaptive cruise control.

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