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spacecadet
spacecadet Reader
9/18/18 6:24 p.m.

True to the interview JG had with the GM team at Solo Nationals last week the 4CYL 1LE Camaro is now an available package on the 2019 Camaro Configurator.

which is now live.. idk when it went live but it's been since before solo nats that I last looked for it. 

 

Pricing starts at $31k for the 1LE and I would add the $900 technology package with Bose Stereo and 8 inch Touch Screen 

Edit: I found out Apply Carplay and Andoid Auto are actually standard features even with the base model infotainment system. 


Solid Amount of car for the Money especially when considering it's cheaper than the 2019 Miata RF.

spacecadet
spacecadet Reader
9/18/18 6:27 p.m.

 

This is what the package costs over a standard 1LT Camaro 4cyl and what it includes. 

racerfink
racerfink UltraDork
9/18/18 7:04 p.m.
Knurled.
Knurled. MegaDork
9/18/18 7:41 p.m.

Oooh, the Cramit I wanted a couple years ago but couldn't configure.

 

I assume the satin hood precludes skunk stripes.

 

 

 

 

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
9/18/18 8:05 p.m.

In reply to Knurled. :

I built this car on paper too just over a year ago and Mrs. Deuce and I went and looked at a 4cyl car that I could add all the proper bits to. It's a brilliant car on paper and I'd probably like one a lot of I could convince myself to buy one. 

Dave M
Dave M New Reader
9/18/18 8:07 p.m.

I was on the fence, but then I saw that it had a "suede-microfiber wrapped shift knob" and was sold.

But seriously, get an SS. I've never, ever met an owner of an SS (or Mustang GT) who wishes they had the 4-banger. I have met people the other way around, however...!

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
9/19/18 8:16 a.m.

I test drove an SS 1LE this past December. I can't imagine giving up the ridiculous power and sweet V8 engine note for a turbo 4 in a 3500lb car. 

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
9/19/18 9:06 a.m.

It's a really good chassis, fits huge tire, and I'm completely over that whole 150+ mph nonsense on track in a street car. Mileage is better, insurance is cheaper and it looks like talent is the big factor on whether this or one of the V8 cars is faster. I get this car. 

Dave M
Dave M New Reader
9/19/18 9:12 a.m.
mazdeuce - Seth said:

It's a really good chassis, fits huge tire, and I'm completely over that whole 150+ mph nonsense on track in a street car. Mileage is better, insurance is cheaper and it looks like talent is the big factor on whether this or one of the V8 cars is faster. I get this car. 

I dunno, keep applying that same logic and you get to a Miata, which is just as practical (really, the Camaro has the tiniest excuse for a back seat and trunk) and much, much lighter.

Edit: Holy crap, I looked it up and the Miata is 900 lbs lighter!!

Tony Sestito
Tony Sestito PowerDork
9/19/18 9:18 a.m.

I may keep one of these in mind when shopping for my next daily driver, if I can fit (and see out of the thing) comfortably. Should get 30+mpg and probably has a larger fuel tank than the usual subcompacts I've been running for the past 15 years. 

I'm seeing the V6 1LE's around here for around $27k brand new, so hopefully, these will be a little less with incentives. 

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
9/19/18 9:20 a.m.
Dave M said:
mazdeuce - Seth said:

It's a really good chassis, fits huge tire, and I'm completely over that whole 150+ mph nonsense on track in a street car. Mileage is better, insurance is cheaper and it looks like talent is the big factor on whether this or one of the V8 cars is faster. I get this car. 

I dunno, keep applying that same logic and you get to a Miata, which is just as practical (really, the Camaro has the tiniest excuse for a back seat and trunk) and much, much lighter.

Edit: Holy crap, I looked it up and the Miata is 900 lbs lighter!!

Which is why I just bought a $2100 NA Miata with a hard top. laugh

From a new car standpoint, I'd rather have this than a ND though. 

Snrub
Snrub HalfDork
9/19/18 9:25 a.m.

I really don't like the way the front end looks on the 2019s.

For the record the 2L Camaro is a ~3300lbs car. You can build your own 1LE suspension for not a lot of money. The springs are like $25 each.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
9/19/18 9:28 a.m.

Ha,  I was playing with that configurator last night. Why’s that? Because I’m writing about the Turbo 1LE that Shaun Bailey just drove to the SCCA CAM-C national title. Look for the story in the December issue of GRM. 

Teaser here.

STM317
STM317 SuperDork
9/19/18 9:30 a.m.
Snrub said:

I really don't like the way the front end looks on the 2019s.

That one pictured is the least offensive version of the redesign that I've seen. By a mile.

racerfink
racerfink UltraDork
9/19/18 9:41 a.m.
David S. Wallens said:

Ha,  I was playing with that configurator last night. Why’s that? Because I’m writing about the Turbo 1LE that Shaun Bailey just drove to the SCCA CAM-C national title. Look for the story in the December issue of GRM. 

Teaser here.

For those of you who glanced over this...

NickD
NickD UberDork
9/19/18 9:52 a.m.
STM317 said:
Snrub said:

I really don't like the way the front end looks on the 2019s.

That one pictured is the least offensive version of the redesign that I've seen. By a mile.

Yeah, the '19 redesign is hideous. Camaro sales are not doing well (behind the Mustang and the Challenger currently), so GM figured it was time for a refresh. Not sure this is going to help

trucke
trucke SuperDork
9/19/18 10:05 a.m.
David S. Wallens said:

Ha,  I was playing with that configurator last night. Why’s that? Because I’m writing about the Turbo 1LE that Shaun Bailey just drove to the SCCA CAM-C national title. Look for the story in the December issue of GRM. 

Teaser here.

LOL!  Clicked on the link and got a Mustang add.

spacecadet
spacecadet Reader
9/19/18 10:13 a.m.
z31maniac said:

I test drove an SS 1LE this past December. I can't imagine giving up the ridiculous power and sweet V8 engine note for a turbo 4 in a 3500lb car. 

except it's not a 3500 lb car. it's a 3250-3300 lb car, the GM guys are right at the minimum weight for CAMC with no mods to the car. So it's hundreds of pounds lighter than a V8 car, with all of that weight coming off the front axle... 

spacecadet
spacecadet Reader
9/19/18 10:15 a.m.
racerfink said:

It’s been known for a while.

yes,  you couldn't build one online before and actually know what it cost, but now you can! 

I did not see your post about it months back, and haven't seen mainstream coverage of it here, so that's why I introduced the thread the way i did.

spacecadet
spacecadet Reader
9/19/18 10:22 a.m.
Dave M said:
mazdeuce - Seth said:

It's a really good chassis, fits huge tire, and I'm completely over that whole 150+ mph nonsense on track in a street car. Mileage is better, insurance is cheaper and it looks like talent is the big factor on whether this or one of the V8 cars is faster. I get this car. 

I dunno, keep applying that same logic and you get to a Miata, which is just as practical (really, the Camaro has the tiniest excuse for a back seat and trunk) and much, much lighter.

Edit: Holy crap, I looked it up and the Miata is 900 lbs lighter!!

ND's are great, but not infallible and are absolutely lighter, but are extremely softly sprung. I'm with Mazdadeuce, I'd take this over an ND all day. But that's a moot point, I'm not trading in my Focus ST anytime soon. 

Driven5
Driven5 SuperDork
9/19/18 10:37 a.m.

In reply to spacecadet :

If it doesn't have struts, and is reasonably well damped, then 'softly sprung' is not actually as detrimental as it's often made out to be.  Struts mean you have to keep the body roll angle to roughly half that of a double wishbone in order to achieve the same quality of contact patch...And the wider/lower profile a tire is, the more sensitive the contact patch is to this effect.

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
9/19/18 11:12 a.m.
spacecadet said:
z31maniac said:

I test drove an SS 1LE this past December. I can't imagine giving up the ridiculous power and sweet V8 engine note for a turbo 4 in a 3500lb car. 

except it's not a 3500 lb car. it's a 3250-3300 lb car, the GM guys are right at the minimum weight for CAMC with no mods to the car. So it's hundreds of pounds lighter than a V8 car, with all of that weight coming off the front axle... 

Myself, and many others, don't care about building a Nationally competitive autocross car. 

 

Therefore, big burbly V8 > turbo 4.

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
9/19/18 11:24 a.m.

In reply to z31maniac :

And some of us are completely over big burbly V8's. Well, not completely. Ok, maybe 40% over them. laugh

STM317
STM317 SuperDork
9/19/18 11:25 a.m.

In reply to z31maniac :

Yeah, but the SS 1LE is $45k too. If i can save $15k and still have 300-ish hp in a 3200lb, RWD coupe that's a pretty nice compromise.

In reality, I'm not sure this is geared toward typical muscle car drivers. They're pretty entrenched in their respective camps. I can see it winning over some FRS/BRZ buyers though. If you're looking for a decent handling, relatively lightweight RWD sports car, then this becomes much more compelling than an FRS with a wheezy flat 4 and Prius tires.

Driven5
Driven5 SuperDork
9/19/18 11:32 a.m.

As good as I'm sure the 2.0T is, I still feel like the 3.6 would be worth the modest up charge.  It has similar performance and similar economy, but a much better soundtrack to compliment the sensory experience.

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