93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
10/20/11 1:52 p.m.

Is this a real Group 44 car?

http://www.f40.com/inventorymanager.php?action=view&Id=372344

Or is it just overpriced?

bludroptop
bludroptop SuperDork
10/20/11 2:01 p.m.

Wayne surcharge

oldtin
oldtin Dork
10/20/11 2:03 p.m.

I think group 44 came after the TR4s. I'm thinking Tullius was a driver for Kastner's factory-backed team in the days of the early TR4 - which makes this one something like 20k overpriced.

bravenrace
bravenrace SuperDork
10/20/11 3:00 p.m.

I didn't see anywhere that it claimed to be a Group 44 car. Doesn't even look like one.

Kendall_Jones
Kendall_Jones Reader
10/20/11 3:39 p.m.

Shoot. He has a 1895 K5 blazer for $15k as well.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic SuperDork
10/20/11 3:44 p.m.
bravenrace wrote: I didn't see anywhere that it claimed to be a Group 44 car. Doesn't even look like one.

Yeah I know it is missing the stripes but it is white and has a 44 on the side.

Basil Exposition
Basil Exposition Reader
10/20/11 3:59 p.m.

Yeah, it is overpriced by a bit. Hard to tell from the information, but it seems like it is yet another SVRA overprepared-not-really-a-vintage-racecar. The price may have more with what it cost to build than what it is worth.

Kind of like this one:

http://race-cars.com/carsales/mg/1273004822/1273004822ss.htm

MG_Bryan
MG_Bryan Reader
10/20/11 4:35 p.m.

I'm pretty sure Tullius ran a TR5/250, but not a TR4

gjz30075
gjz30075 Reader
10/20/11 6:29 p.m.

Says "Raced since new......" This sounds like a George Washington axe car with no real provenance.

friedgreencorrado
friedgreencorrado SuperDork
10/20/11 11:29 p.m.

The seller better have Mr. Noyes & Mr. Battles' logbooks with the paperwork. Otherwise, there's no provenance.

"Because the PO said so" ain't worth $55K. If it's not a real Gp. 44 car, you can take $30K off that price. And really..if the seller can't prove that it's really a Gp.44 car as they're asking for so much, they're not someone you want to do business with in the first place.

Hal
Hal Dork
10/21/11 4:25 p.m.
friedgreencorrado said: The seller better have Mr. Noyes & Mr. Battles' logbooks with the paperwork. Otherwise, there's no provenance.
bludroptop wrote: Wayne surcharge

Agree on the surcharge. For the rest I guess I'll have to watch the show next week - 10/25 to find out. According to the trailers I saw that car is to be featured.

Woody
Woody SuperDork
10/21/11 4:34 p.m.
MG_Bryan wrote:

Must have been raining...

Basil Exposition
Basil Exposition Reader
10/22/11 11:59 a.m.

To be featured in a upcoming episode.

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