911 guys, I need your help.

I told an old friend of mine (okay, an ex-girlfriend..) that I'd help her husband sell his old Porsche 911. I made the mistake of going over to look at it today, and can only conclude that the thing is just a big mess.

He says he wants about 1K for it, and realizes it's a "project". Long story short, he bought it on eBay about 4yr ago in not much better condition than this, and hasn't touched it since.

Early 911 (a 1970? The VIN is #9110100422) that's had the later flared fenders, and even a "whale tail" attached to it somewhere during its history. Very dirty, and many things disassembled-including much of the electrics. Shock towers seem OK, but the floors/rockers are soon to be trash. The nose is rusty as well, and even the doors have the usual early 911 corrosion blisters. It seems to have the original 2.2 fitted, and also seems to have the original Weber setup. The interior is dirty, but IIRC, those seats are some of the early 911 pieces people look for (although I don't know how you'd get them clean). There's also the original wood dash. Here's the pics I took today;

EDIT: I don't know WTF is wrong with Photobucket these days..try this one.

Anybody know what it's really worth? I know there's a market for the early 911, but I thought the folks searching for one almost automatically ignored one that some poseur (not my friend's husband, but some previous owner) had attempted to "update" to a 1980s look.

Any suggestions?

"Page not found" on the link. I'd guess you/he could part it for more than 1k. Luckily I moved further away since I have no garage for such a beast.

In reply to Junkyard_Dog:

Yeah, I edited the post and tried a different link. I hope it works, I'd hate to post all those pix individually.

No way to get it running on a challenge budget, is there?

13B swap might get it there. rebuilding a flat 6 costs big $

Or a Subaru flat-4 swap.

IMO that car is easily worth at least 1K in parts.

DUDE, lets talk...seriously

drop me a line jonhaas (at) bellsouth.net

According to one of my reference books, it should be a 1970 MY 911T with Zenith triple choke carbs, probably built in 1969 as the chassis number is within the first 20% of the 911T range for the 1970 MY. The chassis number suggests its a "ROW" model, not a US one, but the carbs on this thing look slightly different compared to the ones in my reference book.

Can you check the state of the bottom of the B-pillars and the kidney bowls behind them? They're a major concern with any 911, as is the fuel tank surround/floorpan (says the guy who had to have it replaced on his) and will make a major impact on the value of the overall car.

That thing, even in this state, is worth more than a grand, especially if the wheels are the correct type for the Supersport body and not mounted on massive spacers. Obviously the wheels are wrong for the year too, but the interior with the exception of the steering wheel and the seats looks correct for the age. If the engine turns or can be freed up, again that'll be worth more than $1k on its own, as will be a usable 915 gearbox.

TBH I don't see anything untypical for a neglected 911 on this one apart from the body conversion. They all rust like there is no tomorrow so if this one is reasonably solid, it's still going to be worth more than a grand and even more if he parts it out.

The restoration cost for that car would far exceed its value at the end. Still, guys often start a 911 restoration with far less. I wouldn't do it myself, though.

There's certainly more than $1000 in parts there. I'd be tempted to part it out.

Those seats came out of a later car. They look like 85 or newer ROW seats. Maybe not even from a 911, possibly a 944.

Good point regarding the seats, should've looked closer.

Hmmmmmmmm, last legal in PA in 2000...

I think you should just drop it off in my driveway....no questions asked...

If he really only wants a thousand dollars for it, tell him to post it on Pelican and someone will pick it up this afternoon.

jhaas wrote: DUDE, lets talk...seriously drop me a line jonhaas (at) bellsouth.net

Jon, you've got mail.

well, i picked it up for a steal...it WILL make a challenge appearence. they said it was on the road driving less than a year ago... now i have too many challenge projects.

-finish the LT1-49 -swap the hemi into 74 dart -LT1-t56 swap into 77 trans-am -1971 911T

jeez

Wow - good thing I missed this thread earlier. Wife would kill me dragging in another project. Sounds like there's some cool stuff that'll show up in Gainesville.

$1k is a steal for anything 911T that has one fender that can be resold.

I had a 72 in much better shape than that back in 90... and honestly, only paid 3 times what you did for that one. I wish you lots of luck!

jhaas wrote: well, i picked it up for a steal...it WILL make a challenge appearence. they said it was on the road driving less than a year ago... now i have too many challenge projects. -finish the LT1-49 -swap the hemi into 74 dart -LT1-t56 swap into 77 trans-am -1971 911T jeez

Excellent! Yeah, I figured he'd let it go pretty easy. His dad's the car guy, not him. Good luck, and good welding!

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: $1k is a steal for anything 911T that has one fender that can be resold.

$600 dude...$600

possibly the BEST DEAL i have ever gotten on a car/project. second place is $4300 for a 1988 M5 and a 1991 golf gti...(sold the golf for $2000)

thank you for the help friedgreen!!!

haas

In reply to jhaas:

Dude, I'm just happy that it went to one of us, instead of to some poseur that thinks he could fire it up and drive it out of the shed (which were actually the kind of folks looking at it before they asked me for help, good thing his dad is "one of us" as well, and didn't allow it to happen!)..start a build thread when you start on it. I've wanted a 911 since I was eight years old, and had to be very honest about my lack of bodywork skills when I turned it down.

Only weirdness here is that the ex-g/f now holds it over her husband's head that "..at least he knows how to get E36 M3 DONE!.." Doesn't help that her relatives implied (at the berkeleying wedding!) that she's got some unresolved issues.

Reason I love cars #394,857: Even at triple digits, they don't scare me as much as women do. (Apologies to Leslie, ECM, and anyone else who's concave, rather than convex...I love you all, but won't lie-I'm not any more "enlightened" than the average misogynist)