emodspitfire
emodspitfire Reader
7/9/12 7:39 a.m.

Have a chance to pick one of these up for a friendly price.

Anything to watch out for?

TIA

Rog

noddaz
noddaz Reader
7/9/12 8:11 a.m.

In reply to emodspitfire:

A guy at work has one of these... Coils are stupid expensive....

pinchvalve
pinchvalve UltimaDork
7/9/12 8:16 a.m.

All I know is that Mazda considered launching a Lexus/Infinity/Acura division with that car, but didn't.

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
7/9/12 8:18 a.m.

The supercharger WILL E36 M3 the bed, and they're not rebuildable by DIYers.

They have a somewhat complicated and expensive to maintain suspension.

As Noddaz said, coils are pretty expensive. $90-$100 per, and there's six of them. Luckily, it's rare that all 6 will fail at the same time.

A loaded 2.5 V6 non-supercharged Milly is probably a "better" car, but not quite as cool.

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
7/9/12 8:34 a.m.

They are NOT lean mixture friendly. The Miller cycle supercharger etc will turn a momentary lean condition into a holed piston almost immediately. Otherwise, the big thing we saw was the EGR control solenoids going bad.

belteshazzar
belteshazzar UltraDork
7/9/12 9:18 a.m.

please please please put non-miller cycle camshafts in it and see what happens. please.

noddaz
noddaz Reader
7/9/12 10:18 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: The supercharger WILL E36 M3 the bed, and they're not rebuildable by DIYers. They have a somewhat complicated and expensive to maintain suspension. As Noddaz said, coils are pretty expensive. $90-$100 per, and there's six of them. Luckily, it's rare that all 6 will fail at the same time. A loaded 2.5 V6 non-supercharged Milly is probably a "better" car, but not quite as cool.

My guy here was quoted something like $185 each...

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac MegaDork
7/9/12 10:35 a.m.
noddaz wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: The supercharger WILL E36 M3 the bed, and they're not rebuildable by DIYers. They have a somewhat complicated and expensive to maintain suspension. As Noddaz said, coils are pretty expensive. $90-$100 per, and there's six of them. Luckily, it's rare that all 6 will fail at the same time. A loaded 2.5 V6 non-supercharged Milly is probably a "better" car, but not quite as cool.
My guy here was quoted something like $185 each...

Your guy needs to start getting his own quotes using the internet.

16vCorey
16vCorey UberDork
7/9/12 10:44 a.m.

They are VERY sensitive to vacuum leaks, and have a bajillion vacuum lines. I was also a little disappointed by the power. I expected a supercharged V6 to be faster.

belteshazzar
belteshazzar UltraDork
7/9/12 10:53 a.m.

a 2.3 liter one, that only opens it's intake valves for like 15 degrees? how fast did you expect.

Strizzo
Strizzo UberDork
7/9/12 10:55 a.m.
16vCorey wrote: They are VERY sensitive to vacuum leaks, and have a bajillion vacuum lines. I was also a little disappointed by the power. I expected a supercharged V6 to be faster.

i thought it wasn't supercharged for power, but for efficiency as part of the miller cycle?

as such, the 2.5 n/a would not be a miller cycle, but regular old otto cycle, as the supercharger is part of the "system"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_cycle

edit: i've heard they aren't all that efficient either...

Curmudgeon
Curmudgeon MegaDork
7/9/12 10:59 a.m.

Keep in mind even though it's supercharged it's a whopping 2.3 liters hauling around a pretty sizeable car. I always liked Millenias, nice car. A bit more pimpalicious than I want, but still a nice ride.

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
7/9/12 12:07 p.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
noddaz wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: The supercharger WILL E36 M3 the bed, and they're not rebuildable by DIYers. They have a somewhat complicated and expensive to maintain suspension. As Noddaz said, coils are pretty expensive. $90-$100 per, and there's six of them. Luckily, it's rare that all 6 will fail at the same time. A loaded 2.5 V6 non-supercharged Milly is probably a "better" car, but not quite as cool.
My guy here was quoted something like $185 each...
Your guy needs to start getting his own quotes using the internet.

Starting at $90 and change on Rockauto - not that bad

chaparral
chaparral Reader
7/9/12 1:18 p.m.

They may be the least Grassroots-friendly car ever!

1) Big, heavy, FWD sedan, with a few model-specific dimensions that prevent easy interchanges for chassis improvements.

2) A physically big, small-displacement engine whose supercharger is near the air limit already.

3) All of them are automatics, and the only manual swap available can barely take stock power, let alone improved output.

4) Lots of 15-year-old model-specific parts from a manufacturer who'd rather forget that they made this car.

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