How much power does the non-turbo Volvo B20 engine make? Is the Suzuki G10 turbo carburetored or fuel injected? Does anyone know of a transmission that could be used to make a Fiat 128 engine RWD? And what are the weights of these engines; 4AGE, 3TC, 2TC, G13B, G10T, Volvo B20, Fiat 128 engine, Ford Duratec 2.3 and 2.0?
I think the B20 was rated for 124hp. None were turbo though.
http://www.bacomatic.org/~dw/library/txt/engfyi.htm
Engine Weights
m4ff3w wrote: I think the B20 was rated for 124hp. None were turbo though.
Oh just kidding. Which is the turbo engine in the bricks?
Take all internet engine weights with a whole shaker of salt. For all the wonderful bits knowledge that can be gleaned from the internet, accurtate apples-to-apples engine weights are not one of them.
I wouldn't trust most of the reported weights farther than I could throw one of the engines.
m4ff3w wrote: http://www.bacomatic.org/~dw/library/txt/engfyi.htm Engine Weights
The reference says Suzuki Cultus. Is that the Swift DOHC engine?
TJ wrote: Take all internet engine weights with a whole shaker of salt. For all the wonderful bits knowledge that can be gleaned from the internet, accurtate apples-to-apples engine weights are not one of them. I wouldn't trust most of the reported weights farther than I could throw one of the engines.
Don't worry. I am not I just want a rough weight. Although I am pretty sure the Volvo engine weight is right. Someone else told me that weight.
Also is the MKIV Midget engine an O or B engine? I can never remember.
96DXCivic wrote:m4ff3w wrote: I think the B20 was rated for 124hp. None were turbo though.Oh just kidding. Which is the turbo engine in the bricks?
B21, B23, B230, and on to newer engines.
G10T is 150 lbs. without FW, or alternator.
I've shipped them.
If you're considering the G motor, the pre 89 G10 non turbo was carbed. The 98+ G13k was SOHC 16V, and much lighter than the G13 DOHC. The DOHC head is a little heavy. The k makes 80 hp stock, but can easily make 100.
zomby woof wrote: G10T is 150 lbs. without FW, or alternator. I've shipped them. If you're considering the G motor, the pre 89 G10 non turbo was carbed. The 98+ G13k was SOHC 16V, and much lighter than the G13 DOHC. The DOHC head is a little heavy. The k makes 80 hp stock, but can easily make 100.
Do you happen to know the weight of the G13 DOHC?
Not offhand, but I can find out.
Thanks. Anyone know the weight of the Duratec engines?
96DXCivic wrote: Also is the MKIV Midget engine an O or B engine? I can never remember.
If its a 1500 then its a Triumph engine. If its a 1275 then A-series.
It is the 1500 but I know it was used in the Spitfire but I thought it was a standard BL engine.
the answer to all of these questions is
LS1
Its not on your list but I weighed a '00 Zetec with auto flywheel, complete from throttle body to exhaust manifold with no belt driven accessories or starter and it came in just under 260lbs.
Can the Zetec be used in a RWD application?
yes, I have seen it in Locosts, not sure how they do it , but that may be a good start.
You need to use google , the first thread that came up says the Ztec has the same bell housing pattern as a ford T5. <--- some sites say this is correct, some sites..not so much
I have a 4 speed transmission from '72 Pinto with the 2.0 L and five out of the six bolt holes bolt up. The last one doesnt have an "ear" on the block because on a redesign of the block, they moved the starter location from the oil pan up to the block (Looking at the flywheel, 4-5 o clock position to the 1-2 o clock position).
The crank has a cast hole for a pilot bearing that will need to be honed to the correct size.
I haven't figured out the clutch situation yet but everyone that does this over in Europe/UK seems to be able to buy Ford replacement parts to make the flywheel/clutch/pressure plate work with the crank position sensor and starter and the transmission/bellhousing spatial concerns. There are aftermarket flywheels and clutches to make it easier but all seem to be from Europe=$$$.
The oil pan bolts dont bolt up to the bellhousing at all but that doesnt bother me. An oil pan from 1.9L CVH Escort has the same oil pan to block pattern and might match the bellhousing bolts too. Not sure yet on this though...
The 4speed is a Ford Type E or Rocket and is the 4 speed version of the 5 speed Type 9 from a Merkur XR4Ti (Ford Sierra). But I believe you need the bellhousing from the Pinto. Actually any Ford from 1970-1972 with a 2.0 and 4 speed rwd will probably be a Type E. The input shaft from the Type 9 might be a different length, though, but might be swap-able from the 4 speed version.
Some links:
Burton Power (Euro Car Specs...Beware not always the same as US specs)
Oh and I spent $250 on the Zetec and only $100 on the Type E (complete from bellhousing and clutch and pressure plate and fork to shifter and yoke). Its all going in my Locost I plan on building. So cost is a concern and for a modern DOHC 4 cylinder engine and rwd transmission I thought this was pretty low cost.
96DXCivic wrote:m4ff3w wrote: I think the B20 was rated for 124hp. None were turbo though.Oh just kidding. Which is the turbo engine in the bricks?
Early 80"s - B21FT Later 80's - B230FT
Not sure if ever in North America? - B23FT
NGTD wrote:96DXCivic wrote:Early 80"s - B21FT Later 80's - B230FT Not sure if ever in North America? - B23FTm4ff3w wrote: I think the B20 was rated for 124hp. None were turbo though.Oh just kidding. Which is the turbo engine in the bricks?
We got it one year.
One more thing, almost all of the rwd Ford 2.3L 4 cylinders in the US will have the top two bolt holes on the bellhousing up higher on the block than the older Ford 2.0L. That's where all the problem is and if you dont mind hacking up a bellhousing, a Borg-Warner T5 5-speed from a 4 cylinder fox mustang can be made to work.
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